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    Quote Originally Posted by pariston_hill View Post
    Called it.
    Called what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Chaos View Post
    Still better than One Piece females.
    Oda treats his females like goddesses compared to Mashima, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darktravis View Post
    Called what?


    Oda treats his females like goddesses compared to Mashima, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
    Lol sure he does not like Nami isn't just fanservice or his female characters are useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Chaos View Post
    Lol sure he does not like Nami isn't just fanservice or his female characters are useless.
    Nami has occassionally bouts of fan-service.

    Lucy and Erza are TnA smogasboards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darktravis View Post
    Called what?
    That the recently obsessed with Natsu girl would be a pentadrake, or at least have his power as it turned out to be.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Chaos View Post
    Still better than One Piece females.
    I still yet to see Oda tortures either Nami or Robin naked so much to the point one of them piss.

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    You see, not getting a battle is the same as getting licked by a goat at their feet for the kink bingo of the week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxterdexter View Post
    You see, not getting a battle is the same as getting licked by a goat at their feet for the kink bingo of the week.
    I would laugh if not for the fact that might be people with this pov.


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    Quote Originally Posted by darktravis View Post
    Oda treats his females like goddesses compared to Mashima, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
    Oh come on. No idea whatsoever? None?

    Well sure, when they aren't walking eating disorders, vacuum cleaner wielding fighters who get defeated by a kiss, maidens who can't function outside of a relationship or a useless sack of longleg meat.

    But at least we had main women in some nice fights lately, struggling and overcoming their opponents.

    It's not so clear cut as you make it out to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    Oh come on. No idea whatsoever? None?

    Well sure, when they aren't walking eating disorders, vacuum cleaner wielding fighters who get defeated by a kiss, maidens who can't function outside of a relationship or a useless sack of longleg meat.

    But at least we had main women in some nice fights lately, struggling and overcoming their opponents.

    It's not so clear cut as you make it out to be.
    It's still like a few examples from a thousand chapters compared from a hundred examples in an already finished series with half the number of chapters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KageKageKing View Post
    It's still like a few examples from a thousand chapters compared from a hundred examples in an already finished series with half the number of chapters.
    The percentage of maltreated women is lower in OP, in comparison, is what you're saying. And it doesn't matter, because they're still there and this isn't a competition anyway.

    Can't just say Oda treats female like goddesses either. Mashima women get naked and tentacled every once in a while, but they also fight a lot and get hurt in battle a lot. You can't say Oda treats female characters better than Mashima as a general statement, no matter how much better OP is than anything Mashima has drew.
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    The issue was that One Piece was somehow worse than Fairy Tail anyway.

    I'm pretty sure there are so many other manga out there that do worse, but no one talks about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KageKageKing View Post
    The issue was that One Piece was somehow worse than Fairy Tail anyway.

    I'm pretty sure there are so many other manga out there that do worse, but no one talks about it.
    Wouldn't say it's better. Or much better, anyway.

    That's true but nobody mentioned any others here.

    I wouldn't even chip in if it weren't for that "Oda treats women as goddesses" line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Chaos View Post
    Still better than One Piece females.
    Don't know what One Piece you are reading man, but Nami and Robin (granted more pre timeskip) were some of the best shonen female around. They actually did stuff.


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    I wasn't distracted by Lucy being half naked.

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    To Mashima's defense, Erza also do stuff. Like every kind stuff. As in there is nothing she can't do.

    Because she's Erza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    I wouldn't even chip in if it weren't for that "Oda treats women as goddesses" line.
    You did read the full line, right?

    I do acknowledge that Oda himself isn't innocent, just so you know.
    And that line may also have a twinge of hyperbole.

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    Mashima used fanservice a lot but he actually has his women get hurt and battle through pain to win. Its been 12 years since oda gave a main female character a main fight which is how most of the problems in the series are solved by. All the guys can be beaten almost to death but the women come put of things mostly spotless.

    Here's a telling interview with mashima about wendy.
    - I guess, there were various opinions about hurting Wendy.
    M: She's a little girl, so I'm sure there were people, who were against. My editor also told me, that it's too much. But Wendy is not someone, who needs protection, she's a warrior. Warrior's duty is to fight, and when she fights, she gets injured and that is to be expected.
    - You said that during preparatory meeting too, didn't you?
    M: I wanted to draw Wendy as someone, who fights along with her friends. Even if she's a little girl, if she don't get injured along with her friends, then their friendship is falsehood. It may be painful, but there's no other way. She gets injuries, she has painful experiences, but I think that's what mean to be friends.
    When the men face consequences into putting their lives on the lines and the women end up fine. Its a bit insulting tbh when you got cases like rebecca / tashigi, where they end up needing men to save them and dont show their resolve to fight and win, or rather oda pulls away from that before they can finish the fight.

    Or in nami and robin's case he just doesnt show them giving their all where sanji/zoro/luffy are almost at deaths door. This wasnt as big of a problem before EL/TB but its been 10 years since that so I think its fair to call it out for what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darktravis View Post
    Nami has occassionally bouts of fan-service.

    Lucy and Erza are TnA smogasboards.
    If you are against a large amount of fanservice in battle then would you take away the nami-califa fight? Have her stand on the sidelines while everyone else is giving their all to save robin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darktravis View Post
    You did read the full line, right?

    I do acknowledge that Oda himself isn't innocent, just so you know.
    And that line may also have a twinge of hyperbole.
    Of course I did. The women in OP aren't worlds apart from women in FT is what I'm saying. You might have exaggerated a little for effect, I suppose. But if you really meant it, we're in a disagreement. ^^

    Also, everything LJSR said. It's a paradox and really ironic that Mashima can be more sexist and more feminist than Oda simultaneously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razh View Post
    It's a paradox and really ironic that Mashima can be more sexist and more feminist than Oda simultaneously.
    That perfectly sums it up right there.

    I wish Nami and Robin did more, but they are still portrayed better than the Fairy Tail girls even if the girls get their hands dirty more often.

    But at least Oda didn't make Nami and Robin walking fanservice models.


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    I wasn't distracted by Lucy being half naked.

    You won this week Fairy Tail.

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    They're both disappointing, but Fairy Tail is moreso, as well as more frequently. Pretty simple.

    Hell, just this arc alone is evidence enough.

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    Sincerely, between the all persistent Erza torture-porn, Wendy loli-yuri bait, and Lucy constant ENF bait and the pretty ladies in OP not getting to hurt I just stick to the lather. Even if I find that Oda's is stuck with particular beautiful lady designs and not having then fight to the death when the should at least they are not a COMPLETE fetish outlet.







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