DC Movies Thread - Shazam saves the day

[Nitram]

Yeah, I don´t see the problem with having an older Joker. I mean, he is not a character known for being a brawler, and most iterations of him know that they can´t go toe to toe against Batman, an expert martial artist in peak phisical condition. If a sequel does come out, I´ll be happy with them showing a Joker with a twisted sense of humor and some devious plans to srew Gotham´s elite.

[BattleFranky69]

Maybe it's because it's too easy? You think about a person who's really old, you kind of expect them to be cynical after a lifetime of shit and so obviously, boom, psycho supervillain. Having someone become that at a young age, especially from a very, very young age like when Bruce Wayne experiences his trauma that drives him to become Batman, makes a more appropriate mirror of the Dark Knight. At least, if you forego the whole 'falls into a vat of chemicals' backstory.

[Shiebs]

[baby-boo]

Maybe it's because it's too easy? You think about a person who's really old, you kind of expect them to be cynical after a lifetime of shit and so obviously, boom, psycho supervillain. Having someone become that at a young age, especially from a very, very young age like when Bruce Wayne experiences his trauma that drives him to become Batman, makes a more appropriate mirror of the Dark Knight. At least, if you forego the whole 'falls into a vat of chemicals' backstory.

Jack Nicolson wasn't exactly doing acrobatics.

Until further notice, this is a stand-alone movie. It doesn't matter. I've read people people call this, "A batman movie", or they overthink it in terms of its placing in a Batman's mythology. It's its own thing. Let Joker be 20, let him be 70. His age isn't his defining feature, nor is his backstory, a version of which I think The Dark Knight did brilliantly. Falling into a pool of chemicals that die your hair green wouldn't really have fit.

[BattleFranky69]

Jack Nicolson wasn't exactly doing acrobatics.

Until further notice, this is a stand-alone movie. It doesn't matter. I've read people people call this, "A batman movie", or they overthink it in terms of its placing in a Batman's mythology. It's its own thing. Let Joker be 20, let him be 70. His age isn't his defining feature, nor is his backstory, a version of which I think The Dark Knight did brilliantly. Falling into a pool of chemicals that die your hair green wouldn't really have fit.

Well the chemicals also turned his natural skin color white and forced his face to contort into a permanent grin. At least in Nicholson's case.

[Neaeran]

Cesar Romero was 60 when he played the Joker and he was fine. It was a different kind of Joker sure ... but i agree that age isn't a defining characteristic for him in general.

Also, in another news ... Paul Dano is the Riddler! To be honest, i don't know him that well as an actor but he seems alright?

[Count Mario]

Maybe it's because it's too easy? You think about a person who's really old, you kind of expect them to be cynical after a lifetime of shit and so obviously, boom, psycho supervillain. Having someone become that at a young age, especially from a very, very young age like when Bruce Wayne experiences his trauma that drives him to become Batman, makes a more appropriate mirror of the Dark Knight. At least, if you forego the whole 'falls into a vat of chemicals' backstory.

You could also argue that becoming a prominent villain as an older man contrasts with Bruce being young in a fun opposite mirror kind of way. Youthful optimism/vengeance vs elderly nihilism/anarchy. Put that together with how Bruce grew up privileged and had his parents die at a young age while Arthur got to grow up most of his life in the slums with an overbearing single mother and there you go, the opposite parallels write themselves. Especially since most traditional versions of Batman's top tier villains tend to skew young aside from Ra's al Ghul and Hugo Strange off the top of my head.

Aside from that, my favorite Joker takes are when he isn't a good hand-to-hand fighter. He can cook up the kookiest schemes in the world, but when he's a few feet away from Batman, he has to pull a cunning trick to survive or else he gets goes down with one good uppercut or judo throw. I remember how at the end of Death of the Family, Joker tries to surprise attack Batman with an axe at the end of the story and barely puts up a decent fight. That hilarious and embarrassing defeat does not undermine how scary and tactical he is throughout the rest of the story in the slightest.

Then there's how many times he pulls a trick to inhibit Batman in the Dark Knight be it literally throwing his goons at Batman while he cowardly kicks Batman on the side with a shoe knife, shooting the Batcycle with an assault rifle while Batman hesitates to run over him because of the no kill rule, and Joker unleashing attack hounds on Bats while he pummels him with a pipe.

Joker's all about psychological manipulation and having aces up his sleeve to ensure a victory rather than fair direct one-v-one combat.

It's more appealing to me that way because Joker is supposed to be a human being that feasibly anyone can become, yet is also somehow capable of making himself seem like he's larger than life.

[Cyclone_Baroness]

I just saw the Shazam movie. It was pretty fun. Although that main actor reminds me of a buff Jimmy Fallon and I can't unsee that lol.

I only had a couple complaints. The CGI monsters looked awful. Darla was so adorable with her little afro puffs. I'm disappointed the Shazamed version had straight hair.

Overall I laughed more than I thought I would. Especially the villain monologue in the sky.

[uniaka ikuzakas]

I want shazam 2, but with how it didn't really make that much money I don't know if dc cares to makes another one anytime soon.

[Robby]

I want shazam 2, but with how it didn't really make that much money I don't know if dc cares to makes another one anytime soon.

The entire reason they did that movie in the first place was to get The Rock as Black Adam. So they'll at least get to that point.

Also it wasn't really a bomb, it just wasn't a huge success billion maker. It did Ant-Man levels. It made money, just not all the money.

[Cyan D. Funk]

God I really really need The Rock cutting a promo with Mr. Mind.

[KageKageKing]

[desa]

Since it's the same director I look forward to it. Don't like the gold costume.

[Satsuki]

The trailer feels all over the place.

[desa]

I thought Ragnarok & maybe Aquaman.

[baby-boo]

I'm excited for it, but the trailer didn't really tell what the story is, or what's the emotional hook (besides Trevor/Steve?). Felt more like Guardians of the Galaxy - which to me is not entirely a good thing.

[desa]

I didnt like the first movie trailer and it turned out fine. Im not too worried since the director is the same.

[BattleFranky69]

I didnt like the first movie trailer and it turned out fine. Im not too worried since the director is the same.

I thought the trailer for the first movie was fine, I just didn't care for the movie itself when I finally got around to seeing it. I liked the animated Wonder Woman: Bloodlines a whole lot more. It feels like the DCEU is retconning the potential for any Greek mythology threats to have happened during Diana's life.

[desa]

I thought the trailer for the first movie was fine, I just didn't care for the movie itself when I finally got around to seeing it. I liked the animated Wonder Woman: Bloodlines a whole lot more. It feels like the DCEU is retconning the potential for any Greek mythology threats to have happened during Diana's life.

I refuse to touch any of the new Dc animated movies. Last one I watch and enjoyed was the god and monsters one.

[BattleFranky69]

I refuse to touch any of the new Dc animated movies. Last one I watch and enjoyed was the god and monsters one.

That may have to do with those being more self-contained and experimental. The specific DCAMU films are a long-running continuity and they're KILLING it with awesomeness. The Batman ones are particularly good.