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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelloss View Post
    Another random thought. Does anybody think, like I do, that it's strange that Killer understands the weaknesses of Hawkin's fruit better than Hawkins himself?
    Hawkins seemed to be genuinely shocked when he lost his arm: but he knew very well Kidd had already lost his arm. He should have seen it coming.

    Honestly, with Hawkins we have reached a new and unexplored level of incompetence.
    It read to me as Hawkins being overconfident rahter then him being ignorant of how his fruit work.



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    I just want to point out that this forum hasn't been this fast for me in years. Not sure who did what, but thank you.
    Yeah, It's working incredibly well for me too, lots of thanks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by andre View Post
    I just want to point out that this forum hasn't been this fast for me in years. Not sure who did what, but thank you.
    I noticed it recently as well. It wasn't super slow but it definitely took time just to get to the next page or enter different threads. Now its happening within seconds.
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    I think Oda is just recognizing his lack of attention to Kid among the supernova especially when he is suppose to be one of two main rivals to Luffy from that group but it seems that Kid basically had the fate Luffy would've had he not stopped to train for 2 years having learned his lesson from Saboady and failing to save Ace; Kid basically got his ass kicked all over the New World with some minor victories and then got betrayed.

    I think the first showing of that is the strawhat level showing of Killer in this recent chapter. It's quite the leap in character building and hyping the character up.

    I think Kid may get some sort of power up Enies Lobby style and beat up Big Mom a bit but not definitely beat her even with Law fighting with him.

    Kid will get his focus and spotlight but I think it's just a start as to establish how Oda will use him in the future.

    I had several interpretations of the tower card in the spoiler thread and after reading the leak chapter and official I see it as the typical outcome we all knew was going to happen. Hawkins was extremely reliant on his tarot reading and percentages of the alliance's chances against Kaido. Oda would lap back to it more than once. So it was only a matter of time that when going back again Hawkins would be shocked to see how things took a 180 and now he's on the losing side.

    I think the card just points to Kaido's downfall mainly. The theme of the old generation falling to the new has been stressed aplenty but I don't think the theme just ends with this saga. Kid and Law will play their part in beating up Big Mom but I cant see her dying here or beaten to the point she's unconscious.

    I have dabbled with the new notion (not yet a theory) that Kid will kill Kaido after Luffy beats him. Making that tower card have significance to several key characters.
    But do you think Kidd will get a hint of Advanced CoC?. I don’t think Oda would put him equal to Luffy in this fight and shouldn’t but maybe give him a punch or two of CoC imbued vs Big Mom?.

    I don’t think Big Mom will be taken down but she will not get her way through her own strength this time. I feel like there will be a big standoff at the end between forces who are against Luffy and forces who might be pro Luffy or just don’t want the anti Luffy forces to get their way. We are talking forces that are not currently in the fight, including Big Mom( as in she will be part of these forces). Big Mom’s pirates are still out there somewhere and they’re gonna show up at some point.

    I think the News will be, even if Big Mom is not taken down here, Kaido and Big Mom defeated by the new Generation, and that might be what the tarot card represents.

    In regards to Hawkings, he’s a big disappointment. Him, law and Drake had my interest till before the Wano Arc, never was a fan of Kidd but I understood his character presence in relationship to Luffy. Hawkings is just a mess. He might comeback with a changed perspective but I don’t want him to. He went too deep with his tarot cards survival percentage and his kowtowing and giving up to the strongest. The new Generation was about daring and challenging the old powers and he wasn’t about that.


    I completely disagree on Kidd taking Kaido’s head. I don’t see that happening. I got my own theory which I have pointed out before. If anybody is gonna actually kill Kaido, that would be Blackbeard. I think Cariboo has been working and communicating with Blackbeard this whole time and he’s been helping the strawhats by orders of Blackbeard in the hope that Kaido gets soften and injured enough so he can pull the same trick he used at marine fort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenchu View Post
    But do you think Kidd will get a hint of Advanced CoC?. I don’t think Oda would put him equal to Luffy in this fight and shouldn’t but maybe give him a punch or two of CoC imbued vs Big Mom?.
    If he does it'll be depicted in a way to say he's nowhere as good at it as Luffy. Maybe a flash in the pan one time thing and he doesn't fully understand what he did.


    I think the News will be, even if Big Mom is not taken down here, Kaido and Big Mom defeated by the new Generation, and that might be what the tarot card represents.
    At the very least, Big News Morgan is definitely going to promote it that way.

    In regards to Hawkings, he’s a big disappointment. Him, law and Drake had my interest till before the Wano Arc, never was a fan of Kidd but I understood his character presence in relationship to Luffy. Hawkings is just a mess. He might comeback with a changed perspective but I don’t want him to. He went too deep with his tarot cards survival percentage and his kowtowing and giving up to the strongest. The new Generation was about daring and challenging the old powers and he wasn’t about that.
    I got about 3 supernovas I like (not including Zoro and Luffy). Really felt iOda could've done better but given he made them on the spot and didn't even intend for all of them to still be around in the New World, I just take them for what they are. My expectations were low, would have to be plain awful for me to be disappointed.


    I completely disagree on Kidd taking Kaido’s head. I don’t see that happening. I got my own theory which I have pointed out before. If anybody is gonna actually kill Kaido, that would be Blackbeard. I think Cariboo has been working and communicating with Blackbeard this whole time and he’s been helping the strawhats by orders of Blackbeard in the hope that Kaido gets soften and injured enough so he can pull the same trick he used at marine fort.
    I don't think BB is going to show up at all but it wpuld be great. I feel Oda made it pretty clear what BB is currently pursuing is whatever the Marines were gearing up to go get.

    Plus I don't think Oda is just going to repeat exactly what happened in Marineford.
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    In regards to Hawkings failing to life up to not being worthy of a Supernova. I think his portrayal was good. He embodies a failed version of a supernova, just like Apoo, IMO. They gave up their dreams, took the easy route and lived under the protection of an emperor. Instead of challenging the status quo. I mean even Urouge challenged an Emperor and had some feats, even if they were not shown in the manga. In that regard, I think OnePiece wouldn't be as good as it is, if Oda decided to not show someone of the worst generation failing. In this case its Hawkings and Apoo, but it could easily haven been someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaptayn View Post
    With the amount of people who have dealt damage to Kaido so far, we can no longer consider that Luffy took him down by himself
    But the same could be said about Big Mom. It was a 5 vs. 2 fight in the beginning. And while Kaido has taken quite the number of attacks nothing seemed to have been as deep as what Luffy unleashed on him. I know that it's not just the 5 super rookies but also the 9 Scabbards but while they got some attacks in nothing seemed to have done any real damage. And Yamato was stalling Kaido at best.

    I'm not saying that the contributions of the others mean nothing but the one doing the heavy lifting in this fight is definitely Luffy. And he lost round 1 actually. Plus let's not forget that he also fought a huge number of mooks before he actually could get to Kaido. Not saying he took serious damage there either. But if Kaido having to deal what's considered small fry by him has to count in this argument then so has Luffy taking small fry to count.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gol D. Ace OP View Post
    In regards to Hawkings failing to life up to not being worthy of a Supernova. I think his portrayal was good. He embodies a failed version of a supernova, just like Apoo, IMO. They gave up their dreams, took the easy route and lived under the protection of an emperor. Instead of challenging the status quo. I mean even Urouge challenged an Emperor and had some feats, even if they were not shown in the manga. In that regard, I think OnePiece wouldn't be as good as it is, if Oda decided to not show someone of the worst generation failing. In this case its Hawkings and Apoo, but it could easily haven been someone else.
    So either they challenge an emperor or they suck ?

    Kidd & Killer got lucky because they fought an emperor who refuses to kill his foes and that caused their survival

    Teach would literally murder Kidd and take his DF with no worries

    whomever wins more votes in popularity contest will get pushed by Oda. it's disgusting.

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