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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Rin View Post
    On paper it is not. The problem is, it takes someone who is willing to actually enforce it, and we don't have anyone who is willing to do that.

    What will probably happen is:

    Trump will win reelection this Norvember.
    The odds are still against him winning in November, especially since he just lost Jerry Falwell Jr as a propaganda tool.

    It's possible that he'll be able to cheat just enough to squeak by, but the likelihood of him succeeding now that word of his post office sabotage scheme has gotten around is pretty low.

    I think the left is just going to end up biting the bullet and voting in person in much larger numbers than we expected, and older Republicans will vote less than they should have due to the postal system imploding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiolino View Post
    Wisconsin polling better than Minnesota is interesting. Both were very close in 2016 (WI barely went to Trump, MN barely went to Hillary), but one has a very entrenched Democratic infrastructure and the other one became a Scott Walker experiment in illiberalism.
    I actually think that explains it in of itself.
    Minnesota's democrats might be fat and lazy after many years and are not reacting to creeping trends and hand waving things with "Ah we're a blue state, don't worry about it"
    Whereas fighting and suffering under Scott Walker for years has fired up and made the Wisconsin dems battle hardened and alert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KzTxL7 View Post
    Yep. I'm totally part of the problem. God forbid I acknowledge the stupidity of a bunch of shits being public menaces. Nah, let's just ignore them or minimize them because they call themselves Antifa.

    No fucking wonder they're a problem.
    lol you didn't even MENTION the police this time

    "No no I'm actually not completely blinkered on what the main subject of these protests is! Whatever it was!"

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    We did elect a dem governor recently after all.
    Gonna give ya the D.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis-1988 View Post
    Yeah, I’d be careful with that if I were you. Threatening the life of or inciting violence against a sitting or even former President is a federal crime. Off the top of my head, there’s been at least 3-4 people who have been thrown in jail for threatening Obama online. One dude got 27 months and another guy got 33, if I remember correctly.
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    Careful friend. That's how you end up on a list with fed goons knocking on your door.
    Yeah, I'm sure the Feds are glued to their screens investigating a forum for a Japanese comic book.

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    Dropped off my state ballot today. Sorry, Joe Kennedy III, you are not ready to be senator yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny B. Decent View Post
    Yeah, I'm sure the Feds are glued to their screens investigating a forum for a Japanese comic book.
    You'd be surprised where they lurk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoboBlue View Post
    The odds are still against him winning in November, especially since he just lost Jerry Falwell Jr as a propaganda tool.

    It's possible that he'll be able to cheat just enough to squeak by, but the likelihood of him succeeding now that word of his post office sabotage scheme has gotten around is pretty low.

    I think the left is just going to end up biting the bullet and voting in person in much larger numbers than we expected, and older Republicans will vote less than they should have due to the postal system imploding.
    I... I'm sorry, I just don't see it. I want you to be right, I DESPERATELY want you to be right, but that's not how the two parties work.

    Republicans have a long and well documented history of voting against their own self interests. Some of the most heavily Republican-heavy voting districts are poor and have people who rely on Food Stamps, Social Security, and Medicare which are all things the Republicans they elect tend to try to destroy. They'll risk getting sick if they have to to continue owning the libs.

    Meanwhile on the Left: Donald Trump could go on TV wearing a full SS Uniform complete with swastika armband, announce that when he wins the government will be reorganized officially into the new Fourth Reich and that undesirables will be rounded up into camps starting November 4th and end the speech with an enthusiastic Sieg Heil and the majority of the left would look at that and respond "Yeah, wow, This is alarming. Biden had better start working harder to earn my vote if he wants me to help stop this".

    I want you to be right Robo. I REALLY want you to be right. Like desperately.

    I've just lost all hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satsuki View Post

    You'd be surprised where they lurk.
    Sure as hell is not on /pol/ or else some alt right scum should’ve been jailed long time ago.
    That would also assume,that police do shit against non minorities and poor people.

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    A group of unmasked right wing idiots, some of whom were armed, violently forced their way into a government building and broke glass doors on their way in to protest a Bill about COVID Issues like Mask requirements.

    Not only was nobody arrested and, not a single rubber bullet or tear gas canister thrown, but they eventually RELENTED and LET THEM ALL BE SEATED

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey King View Post
    lol you didn't even MENTION the police this time

    "No no I'm actually not completely blinkered on what the main subject of these protests is! Whatever it was!"
    lol

    "If you acknowledge the idiocy the goes on within Antifa then you can't be acknowledging the problems with the police."

    Didn't know it was an either/or type deal.

    FFS.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Rin View Post
    A group of unmasked right wing idiots, some of whom were armed, violently forced their way into a government building and broke glass doors on their way in to protest COVID Reopening and Mask Requirements.

    Not only was nobody arrested and, not a single rubber bullet or tear gas canister thrown, but they eventually RELENTED and LET THEM ALL BE SEATED
    Let me take a wild guess at the race of these people...
    Gonna give ya the D.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The D. View Post
    Let me take a wild guess at the race of these people...
    Whatever your guess is probably sounds about white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Rin View Post
    Whatever your guess is probably sounds about white.
    I guess you could say I was...white on the money.
    Gonna give ya the D.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Rin View Post
    I... I'm sorry, I just don't see it. I want you to be right, I DESPERATELY want you to be right, but that's not how the two parties work.

    Republicans have a long and well documented history of voting against their own self interests. Some of the most heavily Republican-heavy voting districts are poor and have people who rely on Food Stamps, Social Security, and Medicare which are all things the Republicans they elect tend to try to destroy. They'll risk getting sick if they have to to continue owning the libs.

    Meanwhile on the Left: Donald Trump could go on TV wearing a full SS Uniform complete with swastika armband, announce that when he wins the government will be reorganized officially into the new Fourth Reich and that undesirables will be rounded up into camps starting November 4th and end the speech with an enthusiastic Sieg Heil and the majority of the left would look at that and respond "Yeah, wow, This is alarming. Biden had better start working harder to earn my vote if he wants me to help stop this".

    I want you to be right Robo. I REALLY want you to be right. Like desperately.

    I've just lost all hope.
    A lot of older Republicans in key states like Florida vote by mail.

    Today my gf got a notice from her boss that all documents will need to be delivered by hand because the postal system is no longer reliable.
    If schools are giving up on the USPS, the situation is so dire that the GOP may as well write off every single person who's voted for them by mail in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoboBlue View Post
    A lot of older Republicans in key states like Florida vote by mail.

    Today my gf got a notice from her boss that all documents will need to be delivered by hand because the postal system is no longer reliable.
    If schools are giving up on the USPS, the situation is so dire that the GOP may as well write off every single person who's voted for them by mail in the past.
    That's why Derp Fürer keeps saying mail voting is evil and bad and horrible and a Democrat ploy to rig the election.

    He's trying to destroy Mail voting and is banking on the Republican rank and file, who vote against their own self interest literally every election, to do their duty and physically go out to the polls even if it's difficult for them and even if they might get sick because he told them to.

    And they will. Because the Republicans are unified.

    The left will not, because they aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KzTxL7 View Post
    lol

    "If you acknowledge the idiocy the goes on within Antifa then you can't be acknowledging the problems with the police."

    Didn't know it was an either/or type deal.

    FFS.
    You're either buying into a distraction, or willingly buying into a distraction.
    There is no comparison or both sidesing this, unless you want badly to believe you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Rin View Post
    That's why Derp Fürer keeps saying mail voting is evil and bad and horrible and a Democrat ploy to rig the election.

    He's trying to destroy Mail voting and is banking on the Republican rank and file, who vote against their own self interest literally every election, to do their duty and physically go out to the polls even if it's difficult for them and even if they might get sick because he told them to.

    And they will. Because the Republicans are unified.

    The left will not, because they aren't.
    Republicans are not used to being inconvenienced while voting.

    When you see those news stories about people having to wait eight hours to cast a ballot, those aren't Trump voters.

    In the end I feel confident that Biden voters will be a lot more motivated to actually show up because they recognize that the structure of our society is literally eroding around us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey King View Post
    You're either buying into a distraction, or willingly buying into a distraction.
    There is no comparison or both sidesing this, unless you want badly to believe you can.
    Are you really the desperate the try and defend the idiots within Antifa by acting like it's going to completely distract from the issues within the Police system?

    I apologize for you being unable to acknowledge the faults in both systems without being all in on one at one time.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Rin View Post
    A group of unmasked right wing idiots, some of whom were armed, violently forced their way into a government building and broke glass doors on their way in to protest a Bill about COVID Issues like Mask requirements.

    Not only was nobody arrested and, not a single rubber bullet or tear gas canister thrown, but they eventually RELENTED and LET THEM ALL BE SEATED
    Is this the incident in Idaho? Because I think I saw a report on that one.

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    2/ FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn apologized for overstating the benefits of treating COVID-19 patients with convalescent plasma. While the therapy is considered safe, plasma has not yet been proven effective against the coronavirus. Hahn did not dispute Trump’s assessment that plasma is a “very effective” treatment at a news conference, but distorted the findings from a Mayo Clinic study when he said “if you are one of those 35 out of 100 people who these data suggest survive as a result of it, this is pretty significant.” Hahn later conceded scientists found that patients given plasma early in their illness fared better than those who received it later. The Mayo study, however, lacked a control group. (Politico / Associated Press / Bloomberg / CNBC)
    3/ Stephen Hahn pushed back against Trump’s baseless claim that the “deep state” is deliberately stalling coronavirus vaccine development at the FDA. “I have not seen anything that I would consider to be ‘deep state’ at the FDA,” Hahn said in response to Trump’s accusation that people working at the FDA are intentionally complicating efforts to test COVID-19 vaccines in order to delay the results until after the November election. Despite Trump’s attacks, Hahn says he still has “a very good relationship with the president” and that he feels “very comfortable and continue to feel comfortable with that relationship.” (Reuters / The Hill)
    4/ Dr. Anthony Fauci warned against an emergency use authorization for a coronavirus vaccine until it’s proven safe and effective. “One of the potential dangers if you prematurely let a vaccine out is that it would make it difficult, if not impossible, for the other vaccines to enroll people in their trial,” Fauci said. Health experts say they’re worried that the White House may pressure the FDA to push out a vaccine under an emergency use authorization before it has been fully tested. Fauci also declined to comment on Trump’s recent tweets about the “deep state” and the FDA, but he reiterated the risks of rushing vaccine development “before you have a signal of efficacy.” (Reuters)
    5/ New York and New Jersey sued Trump and Postmaster General Louis DeJoy over changes to postal service operations. The lawsuit asks the court to vacate recent changes, including the removal of mailboxes and mail sorting machines, and curtailing of overtime, made to the U.S. Postal Service and to stop it from implementing additional service reductions at a time when a pandemic has prompted millions more people than usual to plan to vote by mail. New York Attorney General Letitia James said in a statement: “This USPS slowdown is nothing more than a voter suppression tactic […] these authoritarian actions are not only jeopardizing our democracy and fundamental right to vote, but the immediate health and financial well-being of Americans across the nation.” (Bloomberg / Reuters)
    6/ The House Foreign Affairs Committee’s subpanel on oversight is investigating Mike Pompeo’s decision to speak at the Republican National Convention. Pompeo’s choice to speak at the convention “may violate the Hatch Act, government-wide regulations implementing that Act, and State Department policies,” according to a letter sent by Rep. Joaquin Castro to Deputy Secretary of State Stephen Biegun. The Hatch Act prohibits federal employees from participating in certain political activities. On Feb. 18, 2020, Biegun sent State Department employees an email – approved by Pompeo – of legal memos about the limitations on the political activity for U.S. diplomats and other State staffers. And in July, Pompeo sent a memo warning staffers — and specifically Senate-confirmed officials — not to attend political conventions. Castro said that Pompeo’s speech is not only “highly unusual and likely unprecedented,” but that “it appears that it may also be illegal.” (Daily Beast / Politico / Axios / Washington Post / NBC News)
    7/ Trump will nominate Chad Wolf to be the permanent, Senate-confirmed secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. Wolf has been the acting secretary since November 2019, and the department has not had a confirmed secretary since April 2019 when former Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was forced to resign. Since taking over from acting Secretary Kevin McAleenan, Wolf has overseen a crackdown at the U.S.-Mexico border and was responsible for sending Homeland Security agents to Portland, Oregon in July. A recent Government Accountability Office report found that Wolf’s appointment is invalid. (Axios / Politico / ABC News / CNN / CBS News / Wall Street Journal)
    8/ Trump’s reelection campaign has paid his private companies at least $2.3 million for rent, food, lodging, and other expenses, according to Federal Election Commission filings. Trump, the richest president in American history, has yet to donate to his 2020 campaign. (Forbes)

    9/ U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services canceled a planned furlough of more than 13,400 employees, which would have crippled the processing of applications for green cards, work permits, U.S. citizenship and other immigration benefits. USCIS funds itself almost entirely through the fees it collects, unlike most other federal agencies. The agency said it was considering a planned furlough of more than 13,400 employees after citizenship and immigration applications fell because of the coronavirus pandemic. In May, the agency asked Congress for an emergency $1.2 billion infusion, but a bailout faded following a standoff between Congress and the Trump administration on a COVID-19 relief package last month. (Wall Street Journal / CBS News)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Rin View Post
    A group of unmasked right wing idiots, some of whom were armed, violently forced their way into a government building and broke glass doors on their way in to protest a Bill about COVID Issues like Mask requirements.

    Not only was nobody arrested and, not a single rubber bullet or tear gas canister thrown, but they eventually RELENTED and LET THEM ALL BE SEATED
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    Our Postmaster General doesn't know how much it takes to mail a postcard. So he laughs it off, literally. Fuck this guy:
    https://www.comicsands.com/katie-por...HqZFvhr0WoNEyI

    Also I just saw that Don Jr. called Biden a "Loch Ness Monster in a swamp" and all I can think/internally scream is: "LOCH NESS IS A LAKE, YOU ASSHOLE! DON'T YOU DARE USE NESSIE AS AN INSULT!!"

    The Scots are not happy.

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