American Politics: We're in for it now

[Dorobō Neko]

Yeah the real question is how much blame we should place on Obama for this country's racism. A lot or like a super lot? Truly the real question for the ages.


Anyway my last post in this thread still stands. People who think Obama sucks or lol "betrayed his base" are never going to be taken seriously.

[Lord Gaimon]

America has fallen from the wealthy leader of the free world to a failed state on the verge of being transformed into a fascist dictatorship.

what are you talking about lmao

[Dorobō Neko]

Like I said, out of touch with reality.

[pariston_hill]

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/geo...ling-election/

This would be a face turn if not for the fact that Kemp is an unlikable douche who just months earlier was finding ways to appease his idol. Such as reopening the state and causing counties in his state to see an uptick in positive cases.

[RoboBlue]

what are you talking about lmao

We just lived through nine months of mass poverty, widespread food shortages and starvation leading to massive Soviet-style food lines, and an almost unprecedented wave of death that was just a warmup for a second wave of death that doctors and scientists have been warning us will come for months.
Seventy million people were so engrossed in a fascist cult that they voted for the guy who let all of that stuff happen and openly wanted to be made dictator for life.
Post-election, the vast majority of them still believe that he won the election, and they're willing to dismiss all the facts and evidence proving otherwise.

Unless we find a way to deprogram a large chunk of those people and return the government to a functional state before they can put another fascist in the White House we're kind of screwed.

[Green_vs_Red]

If America was so wealthy before 2020 why was so much of the wealth winding up in the pockets of the already wealthy and corporations wanting to throw away wealth by buying off politicians and purchasing clout. When everybody else had to see their pay be the same, see their welfare in some states get cut, wind up in debt, and pay for new stadiums and other bullshit that despite claims by these greedy cheapskates do not in fact pay for themselves.

Stuff that’s been happening for decades.

All the pandemic did was make an already problematic situation even more shitty and fixing it is going to take much more than simply throwing a paltry sum of money at it especially if Republicans decide to keep being business as usual.

[pariston_hill]

We just lived through nine months of mass poverty, widespread food shortages and starvation leading to massive Soviet-style food lines, and an almost unprecedented wave of death that was just a warmup for a second wave of death that doctors and scientists have been warning us will come for months.
Seventy million people were so engrossed in a fascist cult that they voted for the guy who let all of that stuff happen and openly wanted to be made dictator for life.
Post-election, the vast majority of them still believe that he won the election, and they're willing to dismiss all the facts and evidence proving otherwise.

Unless we find a way to deprogram a large chunk of those people and return the government to a functional state before they can put another fascist in the White House we're kind of screwed.

I think he was referring to the former rather than the latter.

[sgamer82]

https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday...1/24/day-1405/

Day 1405: "Meets this moment."

Spoiler:

1/ Biden introduced six of his top foreign policy and national security appointments and nominees, saying “the team meets this moment.” The announcement comes a day after the Trump administration ended its 16-day stalemate and said it would to begin cooperating with the incoming administration. “It’s a team that reflects the fact that America is back,” Biden said. “Ready to lead the world, not retreat from it.” Biden added that his nominees bring “experience and leadership, fresh thinking and perspective, and an unrelenting belief in the promise of America.” Hours after the General Services Administration authorized the Biden transition, Trump tweeted his insistence that he had won the election and that he will “never concede.” (New York Times / CNN / NPR / ABC News / Bloomberg / CNBC / Washington Post / Wall Street Journal)

• The White House signed off on Biden receiving the President’s Daily Brief. (CNN)
• Trump-Biden Transition Live Blogs: New York Times / Washington Post / The Guardian / NPR / ABC News / CNN
• 📌 Day 1404: Biden named a number of high-level administration and Cabinet positions for his foreign policy and national security team, tapping Linda Thomas-Greenfield as the ambassador to the United Nations, Alejandro Mayorkas as homeland security secretary, and Avril Haines as director of national intelligence. Mayorkas would be the first Latino to run the department responsible for managing the nation’s immigration policies. Haines would be the highest-ranking woman to serve in the intelligence community. Biden also named his longtime adviser Antony Blinken as secretary of state, John Kerry as his climate czar, and Jake Sullivan as his national security adviser. Biden also plans to nominate Janet Yellen as treasury secretary. (Bloomberg / NBC News / New York Times / Washington Post / Wall Street Journal / New York Times / Politico / Bloomberg / CNN / The Guardian / New York Times / NPR)

2/ Pennsylvania and Nevada certified their 2020 election results, awarding a combined 26 electoral votes to Biden. North Carolina also certified its presidential vote totals, awarding the state’s 15 electoral votes to Trump. Biden has collected 306 electoral votes to Trump’s 232. (CNN / Associated Press / NBC News / Axios /Politico / CNBC / Washington Post)

• The lame-duck president pardoned his final turkeys. “Thanksgiving is a very special day for turkeys,” Trump said. “Not a very good one, if you think about it.” Before walking off, Trump ignored a question from a reporter about whether he would pardon himself. (New York Times / ABC News)

3/ Trump made an impromptu appearance in the White House briefing room to celebrate the Dow surpassing 30,000 points for the first time, telling reporters he wanted to “congratulate the people of our country because there are no people like you.” Trump called the milestone a “sacred number” and then left without taking questions. The Dow rose by over 450 points a day after the Trump administration agreed to start the transition process and the news that Biden was set to nominate former Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen as his Treasury secretary. Trump has repeatedly claimed that if Biden won the election, the stock market and the economy would “crash.” In the three weeks since Election Day, Trump has tweeted some 400 times in an attempt to undermine the integrity of the 2020 election results. (Politico / NPR / New York Times / CNBC / The Hill / NBC News)
4/ The White House coronavirus task force called for “significant behavior change of all Americans,” including the wearing of masks, to mitigate the spread. “There is aggressive, rapid, and expanding community spread across the country, reaching over 2,000 counties,” a set of task force reports said. The U.S. reported 154,656 new infections Monday, continuing a record high seven-day average of new cases. More than 85,000 coronavirus patients have been admitted to hospitals – a 17% rise – and daily fatalities increased by more than 30% over the past week. The nation is averaging 172,000 new virus cases per day – about doubling since the end of October. The CDC, meanwhile, is finalizing new guidance to shorten the length of time it recommends that people self-quarantine after potential exposure to the coronavirus from 14 days to seven or 10 days. The goal is to encourage more people to comply with self-quarantining. (CNN / Washington Post / CNN / Associated Press)

• About 5.8 million Americans are expected to face eviction by the end of the year. In total, 17.8 million adults are behind on rent or mortgage payments. (Bloomberg)
• 😷 Dept. of “We Have It Totally Under Control.”
  
  
• Global: Total confirmed cases: ~59,598,000; deaths: ~1,406,000
• U.S.: Total confirmed cases: ~12,547,000; deaths: ~260,000
• Source: Johns Hopkins University
• Live Blogs: New York Times / Washington Post / ABC News / CNN / NBC News / CNBC / Wall Street Journal

poll/ 53% of Republicans would vote for Trump in 2024. 12% said they would support Pence, and 8% would support Trump Jr. (Politico)

poll/ 3% of Trump voters believe that Biden legitimately won the 2020 election, while 73% consider Trump the winner. 24% said they are not sure. (CNBC)

[The D.]

Pennsylvania certified.

Ooooh yeeeah. Inject that shit directly into my veins.

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We just lived through nine months of mass poverty, widespread food shortages and starvation leading to massive Soviet-style food lines, and an almost unprecedented wave of death that was just a warmup for a second wave of death that doctors and scientists have been warning us will come for months.
Seventy million people were so engrossed in a fascist cult that they voted for the guy who let all of that stuff happen and openly wanted to be made dictator for life.
Post-election, the vast majority of them still believe that he won the election, and they're willing to dismiss all the facts and evidence proving otherwise.

Unless we find a way to deprogram a large chunk of those people and return the government to a functional state before they can put another fascist in the White House we're kind of screwed.

Dude, why are you arguing with centrists? You're more an enemy to them than the trump cult will ever be. It will do you much more good to just ignore their nonsense.

[RoboBlue]

Ooooh yeeeah. Inject that shit directly into my veins.

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Dude, why are you arguing with centrists? You're more an enemy to them than the trump cult will ever be. It will do you much more good to just ignore their nonsense.

Fair point.
I'd hope that 2020 would wake some of them up, though.

[The D.]

Fair point.
I'd hope that 2020 would wake some of them up, though.

Not likely. They were digging in their heels and blaming progressives for their own shit down ballot performances days after the election. The thing is, we're in a bad spot too. If we don't give them a few crumbs of support, the greater evil wins. They have no such obligation to us. It's a waiting game at this point, blue. Every generation is more progressive than the last, and once they start becoming regular voters things can actually start getting better. Until then we kinda just have to pay the annoying, mostly incompetent shepherd to do the bare minimum to keep the wolves away.

[Dorobō Neko]

Hey want to win with a progressive in a few years and have it be someone that moderates would go for?

Besides Harris that is. You guys should start getting behind John Fetterman for his senate run in 2 years and then hope he does well there for a latter president run himself.

Many reasons I can see a lot of Americans would go for him in a few years.

But the main one/most silly one, is just take a look at images of him and his wife. They are something I have no words for other than, idunnopresidentialiguess?

[Green_vs_Red]

https://www.newsweek.com/parler-cens...ashtag-1549891

So even a social media platform for conservatives who whine about being censored elsewhere have their limits who knew?

[MiyamotoMusashi]

Fair point.
I'd hope that 2020 would wake some of them up, though.

Have you seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lljWHxQf6K0

Pretty funny how transparent this all is.

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https://www.newsweek.com/parler-cens...ashtag-1549891

So even a social media platform for conservatives who whine about being censored elsewhere have their limits who knew?

That´s a surprise, they are hypocrites.

[Dorobō Neko]

Only the Hill with hack Krystal Ball and that asshole Saagar would make a fuzz over a news network run by Chuck Todd not putting a focus on some nobody who ran in the primary.

[theackwardstation]

Andrew Yang was not a nobody. He got a lot of traction in social media and came from nowhere to become one of the top candidates (according to polls and donations) during the primary while news networks were avoiding giving him the spotlight he was earning.

[Dorobō Neko]

And how well did he do in the primaries?

I am not saying this to knock on him mind you. Just that the reality of the situation was he was never going to go anywhere but where he did. Bernie polled very well at times too and it was pretty obvious he was never going to win when he was always doing worse than his 2016 run while also being at a tie with Mayor Pete. A gay baby mayor who was also a nobody who came out of nowhere.

[theackwardstation]

Andrew Yang withdrew during the primaries pretty early, but obviously he would never win. However, that's not the point. He was not nobody because when you reach the primaries, you earned the spotlight (and he did it without the infrastrucutre). People who didn't even reach the primary include many established politician, like Vice-President Kamala Harris, who many believe will be the democratic candidate for 2024 if Biden doesn't run.

Anyway, if you followed the story, the situation was not that MSNBC didn't focus on Yang. They literally boycotted him in many occasions, probably because they didn't like his policies and because he was more of a rogue candidate.

[Green_vs_Red]

Only the Hill with hack Krystal Ball and that asshole Saagar would make a fuzz over a news network run by Chuck Todd not putting a focus on some nobody who ran in the primary.

In the interest of fairness the general consensus on Todd isn’t positive he’s given a platform on Meet The Press to much worse people while offering up terrible takes.

[Dorobō Neko]

A lot of nobodies made it to Iowa and NH. Nobody will be able to name them in 10 years and yes, Yang very well could be forgotten by then too.

You bring up Harris but she is the VP. And besides the primaries she is the most accomplished black woman in our government as well as likable enough to get picked by Biden. She has only gotten more popular since getting picked as well. The media focused on her plenty she just dropped out due to not having enough money. And as the primary showed, money is not everything since Bloomberg or Bernie would have been our noms if that was the case.


And that's just assumptions. I assume they didn't focus on him because there was no money on following a dark horse who was never going to be a blip in the election. News networks care about ratings here not policies.

In the interest of fairness the general consensus on Todd isn’t positive he’s given a platform on Meet The Press to much worse people while offering up terrible takes.

Fair point but I would counter with the fact I believe Todd sees more money in doing that shit than offering up focus on a nobody dark horse.