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    Actually whats the general opinion of fight choreography in mha? Imo a lot of the recent fights have been very confusing or uninteresting to me action wise. I preferred the earlier fights such as deku versus bakugo or the tournament

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    I could just be poor scan quality, but, while I'm not sure the choreography itself bad, Horikoshi's art sometimes makes it hard to tell what's going on.

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    Basically, Horikoshi prioritizes cool paneling and epic, impactful shots over fluid action and thought-out choreography, and that can make them look like a succesion of paintings instead of something with movement.
    It may be due to the obvious american comicbooks influence, since they also tend to work like that as far as I know.
    I wouldn't say it's something new, though. Even some of the classics like Deku vs Todoroki have little to non-existent fight choreography, because character drama also gets priority over the action.

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    That's why the anime, in my opinion, is the full MHA experience.
    It's been consistently stellar, ESPECIALLY when it comes to giving the fights motion.
    Deku VS Todoroki was bloody amazing, especially that flashy final clash.
    Deku VS Bakugo part 2 was epic too.

    As someone who enjoyed the Overhaul arc for what it was,
    I can't wait to see how the anime will improve upon the fights.

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    I have mixed feeling about this arc ending (the rest of the arc was pretty good for me), but not with its coreography. This arc had mostly cool scenes easy to follow, with some exceptions, but it canīt be compared to the fight against the High End or Sun Eaterīs fight for example.

    That said, even though Hori is pretty good at panelling and making detailed spreads that could come from a monthly series, itīs clear that one of his weak points art-wise is making fluid battle coreographies. Nakaba for example is pretty damn good at making fights easy to follow and enjoyable to read even without reading the text, on the other hand my favorite MHAīs battles are usually enjoyable because of my attachment to the characters themselves and the context of said fight (for example All Might vs Original Nomu was pretty straightfoward in the manga, but I enjoyed it anyway even before the anime made it a hella lot more dinamic and complex)

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    Quote Originally Posted by glass View Post
    Actually whats the general opinion of fight choreography in mha? Imo a lot of the recent fights have been very confusing or uninteresting to me action wise. I preferred the earlier fights such as deku versus bakugo or the tournament
    It's very mediocre and difficult to grasp, I agree with that. When characters are standing still or whatever, he can make some really good panels. But when he's depicting motion through some fast-paced battle or something along those lines, I'm always left feeling cold.

    Except for Deku vs. Gentle, that was really good.

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    Horikoshi's incredible technical skill basically runs out when it comes time for fight choreography, it's really odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nectar View Post
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    I'm hoping there's MLA female heroes we haven't seen yet. Ms. Joke would be interesting, it'd give her character something to do.



    Have you tried reading My Hero Vigilantes? It's way less focused on battles and more on the characters. It's a nice palate cleanser to the main series. Anyway...

    [Horikoshi Apologist Mode Activated!]
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    I'm willing to forgive Hori for the emotional power-up because quirks are more than a superpower, they're apart of you, and also because how each (in this arc, I'm not touching Deku VS Muscular, that confused me too at first) was handled. Toga's survival instincts unlocked the full capability of her quirk. Twice had a fear he was forced to face and his was less a power-up and more like using his quirk like he knew he could. Shigaraki I'm willing to forgive because we know his quirk was super-powered even as a child and Decay is most likely a mutation quirk like Eri. I'm sure it has a weakness but this was his moment to be a "badass" that comes with introducing something new a character can do.

    And, yeah, you can tell this arc was rushed. Things were happening very fast, but I don't know if it was Horikoshi or his editors egging him on to get back to Team Deku. Either way, for what it's worth I'm willing to give it a pass because I like the villains and wanted to learn more about them.

    As for Spinner, I think he has a follower personality. He latched on to Stain and now he's drinking the Shigaraki kool-aid. I don't think he's really thinking about the consequences of his actions, just that he hates the current society and wants it to change. He strikes me as a guy who's in way over his head.

    What saves Shigaraki as a character to me is his willingness to learn and adapt and him genuinely liking his comrades. Yeah, he's all about the destruction, but he's being smarter about it and will use his new resources to their fullest unlike in the Summer Camp Arc where he lost several allies.

    I'm fine with Re-Destro following Shigaraki because I think he realized its his best bet to accomplish his ultimate goal. The only difference now is he's not in charge. It had to be a huge blow to his sense of self being built up as the guy to realize Destro's dream only for someone stronger who completely mastered their quirk without support gear to blow him out of the water. I think bowing down to Shiggy shows just how much of a fanatic he is, willing to work with him as long as he gets what he wants. Why not? The current society has to go for the MLA to get what they want. Now they have the power (Shigaraki, Twice (the others too, but mostly Twice) and Gigantomachia) to do it. It's a match made in Skypiea.

    Gigantomachia seeing AFO in Shigaraki really worked for me. That's pretty much all he wanted, was to follow someone worthy to be his successor. Plus, as powerful as Shigaraki became, no way he was winning against Giganto in a serious fight then and there.

    But, yeah, My Hero Academia isn't One Piece or Hunter X Hunter, and it shouldn't be. It should follow its own rules that world has introduced and play off its particular strengths. All that being said, bad writing can ruin any story but again I'm more forgiving because I love the villains I don't think Re-Destro submitting changes his core ideology. There more than one way to skin a society.
    Also someone on the reddit thread mentioned that shigaraki juxtaposes with re-destro as re-destro with his quirk being based in holding in and then releasing stress could not ever be as freed as shigaraki. He was charged with carrying out destros legacy but that charge also is its own chain of sorts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nectar View Post
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    Have you tried reading My Hero Vigilantes? It's way less focused on battles and more on the characters. It's a nice palate cleanser to the main series. Anyway...
    I stopped somewhere when there was this link between the illegal steroids and the main story, thought I'll pick it up again someday and I guess now is a good time as any.
    I love the main character though.


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    I'm willing to forgive Hori for the emotional power-up because quirks are more than a superpower, they're apart of you, and also because how each (in this arc, I'm not touching Deku VS Muscular, that confused me too at first) was handled. Toga's survival instincts unlocked the full capability of her quirk. Twice had a fear he was forced to face and his was less a power-up and more like using his quirk like he knew he could. Shigaraki I'm willing to forgive because we know his quirk was super-powered even as a child and Decay is most likely a mutation quirk like Eri. I'm sure it has a weakness but this was his moment to be a "badass" that comes with introducing something new a character can do.

    And, yeah, you can tell this arc was rushed. Things were happening very fast, but I don't know if it was Horikoshi or his editors egging him on to get back to Team Deku. Either way, for what it's worth I'm willing to give it a pass because I like the villains and wanted to learn more about them.

    As for Spinner, I think he has a follower personality. He latched on to Stain and now he's drinking the Shigaraki kool-aid. I don't think he's really thinking about the consequences of his actions, just that he hates the current society and wants it to change. He strikes me as a guy who's in way over his head.

    What saves Shigaraki as a character to me is his willingness to learn and adapt and him genuinely liking his comrades. Yeah, he's all about the destruction, but he's being smarter about it and will use his new resources to their fullest unlike in the Summer Camp Arc where he lost several allies.

    I'm fine with Re-Destro following Shigaraki because I think he realized its his best bet to accomplish his ultimate goal. The only difference now is he's not in charge. It had to be a huge blow to his sense of self being built up as the guy to realize Destro's dream only for someone stronger who completely mastered their quirk without support gear to blow him out of the water. I think bowing down to Shiggy shows just how much of a fanatic he is, willing to work with him as long as he gets what he wants. Why not? The current society has to go for the MLA to get what they want. Now they have the power (Shigaraki, Twice (the others too, but mostly Twice) and Gigantomachia) to do it. It's a match made in Skypiea.

    Gigantomachia seeing AFO in Shigaraki really worked for me. That's pretty much all he wanted, was to follow someone worthy to be his successor. Plus, as powerful as Shigaraki became, no way he was winning against Giganto in a serious fight then and there.

    But, yeah, My Hero Academia isn't One Piece or Hunter X Hunter, and it shouldn't be. It should follow its own rules that world has introduced and play off its particular strengths. All that being said, bad writing can ruin any story but again I'm more forgiving because I love the villains I don't think Re-Destro submitting changes his core ideology. There more than one way to skin a society.
    Good points really. Thanks for laying out the internal logic(for the powers) in the BnHa world for me.
    Nothing much to say about Spinner and Gigan.
    Both of them following Shiragaki feels natural to me after your explanation but not Re-destro.
    And considering their loyalty was probably firmly established after his fight with Re-destro, it's probably plot threads he intended to tie up from the start at the end of this arc.




    It's just annoying to me because this was never how he handled stuff, especially with the heroes. Even Deku crushing Overhaul was made possible because he wrote in Eri a dozen of chapters before.
    Every time he power ups, there were serious consequences(Muscular). Bakugo, with his explosive style, even fights logically to overcome his opponents(or to upgrade his arsenal). See the tag team fight he had with Kaminari.
    None of the fights in this arc felt like it was well thought out instead the fights were just flashy and shallow. Sure, they had emotional triggers and you can explain that it is because emotional growth.
    But do you really want that to be a constant in a manga that was supposedly smart about the way it handled fights and growth?
    Re-Destro, the supposed CEO and head of a cult(which speaks of his intelligence) chooses to ham-fist his powers and brute force all the way through, turning into a giant tank for no purpose except for flashiness to get destroyed subsequently.


    We've all been there and witnessed how this usually leads to full blown dragon ball kind of fights and they all started off with the fans being awed at first.

    About re-destro, I seriously doubt that's how leadership works. I don't think Shiragaki cares about his ideals and he knows that very well but still choose to submit his entire cult to him.
    This chapter didn't give me any impression of cooperation as much as full obedience.


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    A lot of this argument is hyperbolic, and I dunno if it's intentional. Re-Destro didn't really throw his resources and beliefs away. He just acknowledged that someone else was more appropriate to accomplish his objective, which he still wants to do. There's nothing particularly wrong with this writing. Plus, Twice and Tomura's upgrades are not exactly emotional outbursts. It's more about getting over their handicaps.

    Shonen Jump in general has a problem building up villains because very few authors risk focusing on other characters besides the protagonists at first, so ratings don't drop. No one really does this in the early years of a work (if not ever), and even having a arc starring villains is considered "taboo" as one Japanese company CEO put it on twitter. One needs to be a very established dude like Togashi to have the cloth over editors to pull this off.

    Also, I dunno what's the thing with Blackbeard. Are you saying Shigaraki should not be the main villain or something? Despite him being built up since Chapter 10-12?

    What exactly is this direction you wanted things to go?
    It's hyperbolic because I'm of the opinion that we are at the early stages of a trainwreck and whatever I say can be perfectly countered with because this ship doesn't have enough holes yet.
    I'm not sure what's the correct definition of emotional outburst is for you but I'm pretty sure he PTSD into a flashback and came back with an insane power in the middle of that fight.
    I'm reiterating but I don't have an issue with not having villain arcs in the past or having a villain arc now. My issue is how it was handled.
    I hope people are not kidding themselves because this entire arc is a huge shortcut and it is inevitable for him to do the same for our protagonist sooner than later.
    If you don't get the shortcut, the shortcut is that there's no need to scale power levels or show stages of training or pace growth anymore.
    Now the metre is not linear but a giant curve and if that's fine with you, okay then.

    No, I'm using Blackbeard as an analogy because it is somewhat established in the fanbase that he is the main villain and Shiragaki is his parallel.
    BB started out as a lower rogue in WB's crew, built up his experience and preparation before going out into the world.
    All the way back from Mock Town, we follow through the protagonist journey and see their growth and experience but we also see parts of Blackbeard executing his plans towards becoming a Yonkou(and eventually aim for PK).
    Yes, I know this is because One Piece is a longass journey so Oda had the time to develop BB while throwing in villains here and there whereas Shiragaki is...the only dude known to be a real threat in a world full of heroes.
    So to make him more of a threat to the big guys(instead of just Deku), this arc was created.
    Except for the timing.
    Horikoshi is rushing and do not have the foresight nor patience which is precisely the reason why this arc and his bagful of powerups was created.
    Unless you seriously believe the Nomus with no personality traits are going to bring in ratings.
    But why Shiragaki? Why not introduce another villain group and make them equally threatening?
    There lies my problem with this arc and Horikoshi's villains as a whole.
    He can't do that or that he doesn't want to do that(because it is risky since he has invested so much on Shiragaki) so his pacing is all over the place.


    "What am I going to do with this strong heroes that I introduced to the reader?"
    "I can't just let them keep fighting stupid birds"


    Don't get me wrong, there's no reason that just because you skyrocket a bad guy to a new level of threat means anything bad because it has been done masterfully a number of times before.
    It's just that in this case, when Shiragaki grows this exponentially threatening, our main cast will do the same and there lies the problem that will undermine things.
    This, coupled with Deku's latest power up, is carving a path for where this manga is going.

    Look, typing this was exhausting to me.
    I'm doing this because I feel like if someone is going to reply to me in full, it's courtesy to do the same in full.
    My opinion of this series might chance and I do find a bunch of stuff to look forward to that I like about this series but in my heart I know that my expectations has dropped and I can somewhat tell where this is going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeltrax225 View Post

    Horikoshi is rushing and do not have the foresight nor patience which is precisely the reason why this arc and his bagful of powerups was created.
    Unless you seriously believe the Nomus with no personality traits are going to bring in ratings.
    But why Shiragaki? Why not introduce another villain group and make them equally threatening?
    There lies my problem with this arc and Horikoshi's villains as a whole.
    He can't do that or that he doesn't want to do that(because it is risky since he has invested so much on Shiragaki) so his pacing is all over the place.


    "What am I going to do with this strong heroes that I introduced to the reader?"
    "I can't just let them keep fighting stupid birds"
    The above quoted section is part of my problem with the direction the manga has been taking as well. In addition i feel that he has been trying to expand the world with societal problems and quirk singularities, i like that he tried to expand the world, but it has been done very poorly in my opinion.

    These are professional heroes. No villain should ever be anywhere near their skill. The more you practice the better you get, no villain can ever practice enough to be better than pro heroes.

    This brings us to Shigaraki and the High End's. A High End almost beat the number 1 hero. How can that be possible? Endeavor is much much much much much stronger than all the kids at UA. Why are we focusing on 15 year old kids if trained professional heroes with 20 years of experience are barely capable of doing the job?


    Now Hori has gone and made Shigiraki even more of a threat and pushed him up to Endeavor's level so what the hell can these 15 year old kids do? Why are they even in the story anymore?

    Maybe Hori is going for a full societal breakdown and has a time skip and we come back to an older Deku who starts fighting back to save the country. I really dont like that thought though.


    Or maybe all of the top heroes die defeating Shigiraki and the country becomes lawless, like gotham city, and Deku grows up and tries to save the city?


    My point is the story used to be about a world with powers that was similar to our own and we were watching the rise and growth of a young hero. Now not even 1 full year into high school and hes supposed to tangle with the strongest people in the world who not even trained pros can handle? It has become too unrealistic in my opinion.

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    Horikoshi's set the groundwork for Deku and the others to be that relatively capable, though. Obviously they have a long way to go, but Hawks is a top 3 hero just a few years out of high school and Lemillion was considered to be about on Endeavor's level, with the other Big Three kids being high-quality hero grade too. It's hardly a leap to see Deku, with his emerging army of quirks, to be on that level as well, and only a small leap to see some others in Class 1-A being able to hold their own on that stage too.

    The national scope might feel a bit weird, but the powerscaling seems fine to me. It also feels heavily foreshadowed that Horikoshi will be having the kids team up to take some of these villains out.

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    We probably will get a time skip sometime in their 2nd year, hell maybe even after graduation. But I kinda feel like people are jumping the gun a bit. Yeah he upped Shiggy and other villains. But that doesn't mean Shiggy has to act immediately. Now that LoV doesn't have to scavenge for food and shelter they can plan again properly. There probably will be an upheaval of society and we'll get a less bureaucratic hero scape and more of a Marvel/DC world. More heroes going rogue, etc. More team ups rather than one guy trying to solo everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fana View Post
    It's been a while since I've commented on MHA. I don't really want to spend time commenting on something I don't enjoy very much.

    My opinion regarding this manga hasn't changed with this arc: good ideas but bad execution (writing and art).

    I gave up on this manga ever producing an arc that I would like to re-read multiple times.

    The way action scenes are drawn doesn't appeal to me. I often find them confusing, lacking impact or weirdly choregraphed.

    All the good ideas and character design are generally wasted by some bad writing decisions (just my opinion).

    I am enjoying it just enough to continue reading it weekly to check how the few characters I like are doing.

    Also, Vigilantes is very enjoyable to me and it would feel weird only reading the spin-off.
    Yep, this is me. I very rarely stop reading series weekly, since it's such a small investment of time, and I don't foresee myself not reading MHA in the future, but I'm not really enjoying it, and haven't been excited to read it in a long, long time. Probably since the Overhaul stuff. I don't dislike the writing like you seem to, but the art is absolutely a problem. For me, this manga has the worst art of anything I read in Shonen Jump. It's just often more flashy than original, interesting, or engaging. This arc has probably been the worst for those problems, compounded by the fact that I didn't care about any of the characters and he hasn't succeeded in making me care. Even if I haven't been really loving everything since Overhaul, it hadn't felt like a chore to read. Maybe the chaotic nature of the art was on purpose, but it didn't work for me (brother).

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    Quote Originally Posted by glass View Post
    Actually whats the general opinion of fight choreography in mha? Imo a lot of the recent fights have been very confusing or uninteresting to me action wise. I preferred the earlier fights such as deku versus bakugo or the tournament
    I thought the fight against Gentle had pretty decent art, but nothing awe-inspiring. Even One Piece's flash fights tend to have pretty cool and memorable moments. Wano has had a ton of cool mini fights so far.

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    Shigaraki is going to be the final villain of the manga. Deku doesn't have to be at his level until then. That's why Horikoshi has given him an army, so the kids can fight defeatable minions instead of the endgame villains. He won't succeed in destroying the world or society either. Because that would mean that he wins. Heros exist to save. If Shigaraki wrecks everything and then Deku goes and beat the shit out of him, who exactly would he be saving?

    I doubt we're leaving the school, too. You don't just ditch the premise and the setting of the story like that. I can't wait for people to be shocked once again when we switch to the final exams of the second term or whatever next chapter and that is given exactly the same weight and focus as all this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themick View Post
    no villain can ever practice enough to be better than pro heroes.
    Who the heck decided that?
    Practice is practice.

    Just like how the kids at UA have been growing exponentially due to constantly fighting villain attacks,
    and how pro heroes are very tough and experienced in their own rights,
    Shigaraki's group are experienced killers (well, most of them), and they've spent the last month and a half desperately fighting against the relentless assault of Gigantomachia.
    It's no surprise that all of this non-stop fighting has toughened them up and helped them grow/evolve.

    There's a difference between going through hero school and then facing a tough villain every week or so,
    and fighting one strong villain for 44 hours at a time over the course of a MONTH AND A HALF.
    Not spread across a total of x number of years. Fighting for that long CONSECUTIVELY.
    The level of stress and burden just can't be compared, so naturally their growth was accelerated. Makes perfect sense to me.

    It's like how Haki usually needs to be trained/developed in terms of decades on the high seas,
    but Luffy submerged himself on an island full of hundreds of creatures stronger than him.
    Through constant fighting for survival after Rayleigh taught him the basics, he rapidly accelerated his growth to rise above the threats.

    Same thing happened to the villains in MHA. They've been stuck in a constant loop of fighting for their lives for a long time,
    so of course they're gonna be like a Pokémon that just gained 20 levels.

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    Just some random thoughts and general responses.

    Looking forward to seeing how Japan reacts to the League destroying a city, especially the Police Commissioner General. Whatever plans he got for improving the police force will probably happen now.

    I heard a theory on a podcast about Hatsume interning at Detnerat. That'd be fun to see.

    Re-Destro is smart but he's still a fanatic. It's all about accomplishing Destro's dream and since he's a descendant he was taught he was the one to usher in the free quirk range. I don't think anything else matters. I'm sure he knows Shiggy doesn't care about his ideals but both want the current society destroyed. And, I'm sure Shiggy won't mind seeing the chaos people using their quirks in a lawless world will create. In the end, Re-Destro needs Shigaraki's (and the League's) raw power as much as Shigaraki needs the MLA's resources.

    The High-Ends being ridiculously overpowered is their function. Like what someone else said, it's hinted a good number of future fights will be team-ups so I'm not bothered by their strength. I do find them having intelligence interesting. Makes me wonder if Uijiko cracked the mind break code or could he always have made them smart. I got a theory No. 6's obsession with Knuckleduster in Vigilantes was the reason Uijiko made the Nomu so mindless. But, that would conflict with my other theory Nine from the upcoming movie is the last human model creature Uijiko made.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone_Baroness View Post
    We probably will get a time skip sometime in their 2nd year, hell maybe even after graduation. But I kinda feel like people are jumping the gun a bit. Yeah he upped Shiggy and other villains. But that doesn't mean Shiggy has to act immediately. Now that LoV doesn't have to scavenge for food and shelter they can plan again properly. There probably will be an upheaval of society and we'll get a less bureaucratic hero scape and more of a Marvel/DC world. More heroes going rogue, etc. More team ups rather than one guy trying to solo everything.
    Oh! I didn't think about how the hero community would react to all this. Yeah, I can see more hero teams forming because of it. Endeavor himself may create a team to put the public at ease. And then there's the heroes secretly working for the MLA, well, the League now. That's gonna be a hard pill to swallow when that gets revealed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themick View Post
    The above quoted section is part of my problem with the direction the manga has been taking as well. In addition i feel that he has been trying to expand the world with societal problems and quirk singularities, i like that he tried to expand the world, but it has been done very poorly in my opinion.

    These are professional heroes. No villain should ever be anywhere near their skill. The more you practice the better you get, no villain can ever practice enough to be better than pro heroes.

    This brings us to Shigaraki and the High End's. A High End almost beat the number 1 hero. How can that be possible? Endeavor is much much much much much stronger than all the kids at UA. Why are we focusing on 15 year old kids if trained professional heroes with 20 years of experience are barely capable of doing the job?


    Now Hori has gone and made Shigiraki even more of a threat and pushed him up to Endeavor's level so what the hell can these 15 year old kids do? Why are they even in the story anymore?

    Maybe Hori is going for a full societal breakdown and has a time skip and we come back to an older Deku who starts fighting back to save the country. I really dont like that thought though.


    Or maybe all of the top heroes die defeating Shigiraki and the country becomes lawless, like gotham city, and Deku grows up and tries to save the city?


    My point is the story used to be about a world with powers that was similar to our own and we were watching the rise and growth of a young hero. Now not even 1 full year into high school and hes supposed to tangle with the strongest people in the world who not even trained pros can handle? It has become too unrealistic in my opinion.
    I'm... not understanding the problem with the High Ends. They're big, mindless, science monsters who are built to rival the strongest heroes in the setting. They don't need to practice. In fact, the only people who are not threatened by the average Nomu are the stronger Heroes like Endeavor or Gran Torino.

    The story focuses on 15 years olds because they're the future of heroism. It's a very obvious "next generation" premise. Like you said, the story is about the rise and growth of a young hero.

    Also, they actually explained that Deika City was a secret practice ground for MLA members, so villains DO have access to practice. They just really need backers.
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    The practice complaints against the villains kinda crack me up. Cause they're the ones besides heroes who would be actually using their quirks without restrictions or restraint when they feel like it, cause fork the law. Normal civilians are the ones who couldn't protect themselves in most scenarios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Cannon View Post
    I'm... not understanding the problem with the High Ends. They're big, mindless, science monsters who are built to rival the strongest heroes in the setting. They don't need to practice. In fact, the only people who are not threatened by the average Nomu are the stronger Heroes like Endeavor or Gran Torino.

    My problem with the High Ends are that one of them severely injured/crippled and almost killed the #1 hero. If the LoV had provided High End with even a little bit of backup/support they could have killed the #1 hero, like they tried to do to All Might at USJ. Now the LoV is even stronger. So what is stopping them from rolling over the entire country?

    Sure the heroes could team up but the league could attack the top heroes when they are home alone. Based on how the story has played out most of the power in the country is wielded by the top 10 or so heroes. When I say power i mean physical combat ability. Once these top heroes are gone it seems like this society would break down.


    Quote Originally Posted by King Cannon View Post
    The story focuses on 15 years olds because they're the future of heroism. It's a very obvious "next generation" premise. Like you said, the story is about the rise and growth of a young hero.
    So when the #1 hero can barely survive against the LoV what hope do a bunch of first year high school students have? Hori took his story to a national level and these kids are a million years to early to compete on that level. So why are they in the story or why did he expand the scope so large this early?

    Quote Originally Posted by King Cannon View Post
    Also, they actually explained that Deika City was a secret practice ground for MLA members, so villains DO have access to practice. They just really need backers.
    This proves my point. Without a billionaire cult leader backing you villains should really be a non threat. Yet even with all that backing somehow LoV walked all over the MLA.



    Maybe Hori ties it all together beautifully but i seriously have my doubts. It frustrates me because i used to be very excited for the new chapter every week, plenty of times i was more exited to read MHA over OP. Now i look forward to MHA-Vigilantes more.


    I usually agree with your opinions KC, but not on this occasion.

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    Default Re: My Hero Academia II - Bhyyyyyyyyy

    As I said before, the LoV have been fighting for a long long time.

    They've also just come out of a whole month and a half of consecutive desperate struggle to survive against an absolutely brutal monster.
    That's more effective quirk training than most heroes would get in literally years on the job, due to how specifically long and particularly taxing/stressing their situation was.
    It's not strange at all that their levels increased to a point that they could be a match for the MLA.

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