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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Yeah, sure, I get that. I mean, we're supposed to accept that Brulee is the *ugly witch* who wants to look pretty. So there's leeway there.

    But...it *still* could have made sense without even needing such an explanation.

    Not to mention the Perospero issue which is true regardless.
    Does he really look that old, Greg? He looks about the same age as like Caesar, to me.

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    Perospero isn't that old looking to be honest. Assuming he's 5x, it's not really odd. Even if he's younger to be honest. Does he really look older than a guy like Bege? I think we all assumed they had to be older from the beginning which altered our perception.

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    Torao, I played devil's advocate above with Mom birthing her firstborn Compote or Perospero early at 18. I think that's fair. 50 makes sense for Compote but Perospero? No way.

    Remember, that's if we accept that Oda was being wildly misdirecting with his statement which was (uncharacteristically) very unambiguous.

    I think we all assumed they had to be older from the beginning which altered our perception.
    I can't speak for others but I was the complete opposite. I never assumed Mom was very old *until* I saw Perospero, Brulee and the others. Before them I always considered her in the same neighborhood as Newgate. Which it turns out, she is ^O^

    Does he really look that old, Greg? He looks about the same age as like Caesar, to me.


    Check those wrinkles, mate. That's a *late* 50's to mid-60's for Oda in my book. Not that my book has to be right ^O^ But he doesn't look anywhere *near* Caesar to me.
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    Is it really all that surprising considering the difference in apparent age between Perospero, the first son, and Katakuri, the second. Katakuri looks no older than Zoro did in part 1 and definitely looks younger than all of his younger brothers we know about, like Opera and Mont'dor.

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    yeah it would be weird, on the one hand, to make big mom that "young", but then try everything to make the kids older. like if brulee should be over 50, why not make mom a few years older?
    But regarding perospero i dont think he looks "that" old
    then again their looks are all over the place. katakuri(2) doesnt look much older older then Mont'dor(19) who looks older then cracker(10)
    and smoothie(14) looks way younger then lola and chiffon(22,23) I even thought lola was around 40, when she was introduced.
    compote to me looks like 40-50 and yeah i'd say prospero i would've placed around 50-60.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andre View Post
    Is it really all that surprising considering the difference in apparent age between Perospero, the first son, and Katakuri, the second. Katakuri looks no older than Zoro did in part 1 and definitely looks younger than all of his younger brothers we know about, like Opera and Mont'dor.
    That's an other thing, andre! Katakuri and Perospero, wtf!? Pero looks waaaaaaaay older than Katakuri! I'd argue that some of the younger ones look much older than Katakuri too but I guess we should hold back on that until we see his face. Anyway, I'm in complete agreement that Katakuri's design seems *fine* or at least explainable. It's some of those younger ones that just...geez, I'm *really* shocked by this. It seems uncharacteristically sloppy.

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    It might also be related to Big Mom's power. Maybe the more lifespan is taken away from you the more you age.

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    Brook being faster than the M3 simply doesn't make sense.Oda is on some weird crack again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    That's an other thing, andre! Katakuri and Perospero, wtf!? Pero looks waaaaaaaay older than Katakuri! I'd argue that some of the younger ones look much older than Katakuri too but I guess we should hold back on that until we see his face. Anyway, I'm in complete agreement that Katakuri's design seems *fine* or at least explainable. It's some of those younger ones that just...geez, I'm *really* shocked by this. It seems uncharacteristically sloppy.
    Here's how I might see it:

    *First children: Perospero and Compote: Born as twins when BM was anywhere from like....13 to 18. (Hey, these kind of things used to happen back in the day)
    **Next Children: Daughters anywhere from 2 to 13.
    ***Then Katakrri, Daifuku, Oven, and then the Cream Bros. Or a mix after a bit.

    Basically, I imagine most of BM's first children were daughters, which probably helped form the base of her crew via her marriages, then came Katakuri and so forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torao View Post
    Well.
    maybe brulees fruit has something to do with her looks like with alvida?
    key word snow white.
    omg, I feel like you hit the future of what's gonna be of BM.
    Maybe, not Brulee's but BM's fruit makes her look younger than she really is, the Tamatebako keeps the drugs that turn you into an old-fart?? right?? omg!

    In other news, until I few months ago, I was under the impression that Adele(the singer) was like 40 years old, when someone told me she was on her 20's I had to check on Wikipedia.

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    Well....yeah I should take a step back and consider whether Oda is trying to be tricky.

    I mean, the implications of what her fruit could mean for 'age' are varied!

    But I dunno if he'd go so far as to misdirect fans with an SBS answer. He's usually better at something like that by being ambiguous, not throwing out a real number.

    Oooh....interestingly enough....this might help explain how Brook addressed Mom.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy Boy View Post
    Brook being faster than the M3 simply doesn't make sense.Oda is on some weird crack again.
    well that's probably on a scenario where the race is ran without any of them using any of their fighting-feats, I mean, sure, Skywalk, 2nd Gear and any of Zoro's sonson etc's make them look real quick, but in a normal race, Brook would just leave them behind, the dude runs on water!!

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    IT DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT TOTALLY DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    It completely explains how Brook addressed Mom in 851!!!!!!!!!!!!

    In that respect, AWESOME!

    Design-wise, Oda, you silly-billy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy Boy View Post
    Brook being faster than the M3 simply doesn't make sense.Oda is on some weird crack again.
    Its not about his muscle strengh, ıts about his lightness. So, this does not mean his attacks or strengh whit his speed would be as strong as the others. He can run on the sea and we know that even Luffy cant do that. It was obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monquito View Post
    omg, I feel like you hit the future of what's gonna be of BM.
    Maybe, not Brulee's but BM's fruit makes her look younger than she really is, the Tamatebako keeps the drugs that turn you into an old-fart?? right?? omg!

    In other news, until I few months ago, I was under the impression that Adele(the singer) was like 40 years old, when someone told me she was on her 20's I had to check on Wikipedia.
    Yeah i thought about her looking younger because of her fruit, but now that oda said that she is 68, i dont quite know anymore. but yeah adele looks way older too^^

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    I always asdumed that some of her children look older than they really are because at some point Big mom took some of their lifespan while those who never got her angry like the sweet commanders look like like their real age.

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    I want to take Oda's comment about the editors being perverts seriously, since for a while now, we'been having uncontrollable amounts of fan-service lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Yeah, sure, I get that. I mean, we're supposed to accept that Brulee is the *ugly witch* who wants to look pretty. So there's leeway there.

    But...it *still* could have made sense without even needing such an explanation.

    Not to mention the Perospero issue which is true regardless.
    well her being younger than roger makes sense so at least we got confirmation on that

    I never expected brulee to be 70 or so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy Boy View Post
    Brook being faster than the M3 simply doesn't make sense.Oda is on some weird crack again.
    Its simply running not what luffy does when he's in gear 2 just maxing his jumps
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    Wow so Big Mum actually gave birth to all of her children? I thought Oda would go the devil fruit route here.

    As for her age, sounds about right for me. Hillary Clinton is 69 and she reminds me a lot of her.

    http://jtf.org/wp-content/uploads/20...n-laughing.jpg

    http://skutecnosti.cz/wp-content/upl...inton_yell.jpg

    http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/hillary-crosseyed-3.jpg

    Strong and intimidating presence, but also kind of creepy. The perfect pick for the Totland live action movie!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobop View Post
    I always asdumed that some of her children look older than they really are because at some point Big mom took some of their lifespan while those who never got her angry like the sweet commanders look like like their real age.
    Removed lifespan doesn't affect your appearance, otherwise Pedro would look really old.

    Honestly, I don't really care about how old everyone looks. I know lots of people in their mid 40's-early 50's who have plenty of wrinkles. Plus there's a ton of different dads, so different genes and all.

    Plus, no Charlotte child's age can possibly be as WTF as Sengoku being 77 before the timeskip.


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