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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaba Kaba Fruit View Post
    both sides carry their pros and cons. I
    Name one pro for the Republican Party that reflects their actual policies.
    Complicating things since 2009.

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    Better yet, name one pro that outweighs all their many cons and/or the Democrats' pros.

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    I might name some of the Republican party 70-100 years ago, but now? Hah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satsuki View Post
    I might name some of the Republican party 70-100 years ago, but now? Hah.

    Don't worry, Teddy, you'll always be my Green Man.
    70-100 years ago they were technically democrats by modern viewpoint. The parties switched places in almost every way over the 60's and 70's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiq View Post
    Name one pro for the Republican Party that reflects their actual policies.
    Quote Originally Posted by sgamer82 View Post
    Better yet, name one pro that outweighs all their many cons and/or the Democrats' pros.
    And don't say occasionally opposing Trump ala John McCain/Jeff Flake.
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    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaba Kaba Fruit View Post
    I voted because it is the status quo favored by the populace. I voted because it allows me to snivel like a bitch under the excuse of "Freedom of Speech" granted under the First Amendment despite knowing that it won't translate to obligatory representation in the House or Senate. I voted because I'm scared of my own government. I voted because I don't want anyone in these forums or anyone else to lynch me for not doing my duty. I voted because I'm a One Piece fan and somehow, One Piece fans think their viewpoints here translate to real change at the poll. I voted because Democrats are good and Republicans are evil even though both sides carry their pros and cons. I voted because Donald Trump is the president who needs to be stopped despite having the freedom to enact his privileges granted to him under the constitution. I voted because it is better to bitch about the government not doing their job right despite the fact that under a proper democracy, it should be the exact opposite because it WORKS in the interests of the people. I voted because well...I voted.
    I'm tired of being told there's no difference between the parties when shit like this is happening.


    I repeatedly told whoever was listening that EXACTLY THIS would happen if Trump won because it's the stated policy of his actual party. I, and people like me were dismissed as alarmist by Republicans and the Never Hillary "Progressive" crowd.

    I'm just getting angrier and angrier. It's taking all my effort not to go on a profanity-laden rant directed at anyone who continues to tell me I'm being alarmist, "Both sides bad" or voting doesn't matter.

    This isn't some ideological game. Real people are actually being harmed by this administration. A lot of people could have stopped this but chose not to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaba Kaba Fruit View Post
    even though both sides carry their pros and cons.
    What are the pros of the modern Republican party. I'm really curious what outweighs... everything they're doing that makes it any sort of a comparison to the other party.


    I voted because Donald Trump is the president who needs to be stopped despite having the freedom to enact his privileges granted to him under the constitution.
    He does not actually have the freedoms to do many of the things he has done. Like order infants be torn from their parents and put in cages, to name one. He is enabled by a congress that isn't checking him.

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    Guys, today's news really has me stressed out and upset and fearful. I'm seriously not ok right now. I'm about to start crying.

    I didn't actually say what it was, so for anyone who didn't click my link in the last post, the Trump administration wants to rigidly define gender based on genitals at birth in an official Government capacity.

    This will effectively wipe out any federal protection for Trans people period.......
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    https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday...10/22/day-641/

    Day 641: A great mind.

    1/ Saudi Arabia's foreign minister denied that Mohammed bin Salman ordered Jamal Khashoggi's killing, calling it a "rogue operation" by individuals who "made a mistake." Adel al-Jubeir denied that the crown prince had any prior knowledge of the operation and said that the agents involved "weren't people closely tied" to him. (Washington Post)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...129_story.html

    2/ Surveillance video: A Saudi agent walked out of the Saudi consulate in Istanbul wearing Khashoggi's clothes, a fake beard, and glasses in order to create a misleading trail of evidence. The man in the video, identified as Mustafa al-Madani, was part of the 15-man team that flew to Istanbul to confront Khashoggi. He was seen leaving the consulate through the back door and later at the Blue Mosque. Several members of the team have ties to the crown prince. (CNN / New York Times / Washington Post)

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/22/middl...hes/index.html

    3/ Jared Kushner said the White House is still "fact-finding" about the circumstances of Khashoggi's death, declining to say whether he believes Saudi Arabia's explanation that Khashoggi accidentally died during a fistfight inside the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul. "Once we have all the facts, we'll make an assessment." (New York Times / Washington Post)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...6b6_story.html

    Steven Mnuchin met with Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman despite announcing that was withdrawing from a conference in Saudi Arabia this week. (Washington Post)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...nalists-death/

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel vowed to halt all German arms exports to Saudi Arabia, calling what happened to Khashoggi a "monstrosity." (Reuters)

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...idUSKCN1MW2LT?

    4/ The Trump administration plans to redefine the legal definition of gender as strictly biological, unchangeable, and determined by the genitals that a person is born with. The effort by the Department of Health and Human Services would establish a legal definition of sex under Title IX, effectively narrowing the definition of gender and deny federal recognition and civil rights protections to transgender Americans. (New York Times)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/21/u...efinition.html

    The Education Department is expected to narrow the definition of sexual assault that schools are required to consider, providing more rights to those accused of assault. (Wall Street Journal)

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-...les-1540162957

    5/ Robert Mueller's team continues to pursue conflicting accounts about Roger Stone's communication with WikiLeaks. During the presidential campaign, Stone claimed he was in touch with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, predicting that WikiLeaks would release information related to Hillary Clinton. Stone suggested that his friend Randy Credico "was my principal source regarding the allegedly hacked emails published by WikiLeaks." Credico has denied the claim, telling Mueller's grand jury that Stone told him during the 2016 campaign that he had a secret back channel to WikiLeaks. Investigators are also looking into whether Stone shared information that he believed was from WikiLeaks with members of Trump's presidential campaign. (Washington Post / CNN)

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/22/polit...iny/index.html

    poll/ 47% of Americans approve of the job Trump is doing – an all-time high. (CNBC)

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/21/demo...-wsj-poll.html

    poll/ Democrats hold a 9-point lead among likely voters over Republicans in congressional preference. 50% of likely voters prefer Democrat to control Congress after the November elections, versus 41% who want Republicans to stay in charge — up 1 point from Democrats’ lead in the September. (NBC News)

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/fir...ctions-n922266

    Notables.

    Trump claimed that Republicans are planning "very major tax cut" for the middle class before the midterms. Congress, however, is out of session until after November's midterm elections. Last week, the Treasure announced that the government ended the 2018 fiscal year with a $779 billion deficit. (Reuters / Washington Post / Axios)

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1MU0X2

    The Missouri Republican Party sent mailers to 10,000 voters with false information about when absentee ballots are due. The mailers, sent to likely Republican voters, encouraged voters to return their mail-in ballots "today." Mail-in ballots for the state aren't due until Wednesday, Oct. 31. (Kansas City Star)

    https://www.kansascity.com/news/poli...220334185.html

    Trump is preparing to call the midterm elections "illegitimate" if Democrats take control of the House or Senate, according to Carl Bernstein. "Trump is already talking about how to throw legal challenges into the courts, sow confusion, declare a victory actually, and say that the election's been illegitimate." (Washington Examiner)

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...ats-take-power

    Trump tweets about non-existent voter fraud, warning people to "cheat at your own peril. Violators will be subject to maximum penalties, both civil and criminal!" (CNN)

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/22/polit...aud/index.html

    The EPA will withdraw an Obama-era proposal aimed at regulating how waste from uranium milling is disposed in order to reduce the spread of radon. Acting EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler called the now-scrapped proposal "would have imposed significant burdens on uranium miners." (The Hill)

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-en...-uranium-mills

    Trump blamed Mexico and Democrats for the so-called caravan of migrants heading to the southern U.S. border, threatening to cut off or reduce aid to Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador as citizens flee gang violence and poverty. Trump also attempted to stoke fear about the caravan, claiming that it now includes "unknown Middle Easterners." (Politico / The Hill / New York Times)

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-crisis-921892

    Mikhail Gorbachev: The U.S. withdrawing from the nuclear disarmament treaty with Russia is not the work of "a great mind." Trump said the U.S. would withdraw from the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty because Russia has violated the agreement. (New York Times / Reuters / Politico)

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1MU0Z8

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    Trump is preparing to call the midterm elections "illegitimate" if Democrats take control of the House or Senate, according to Carl Bernstein. "Trump is already talking about how to throw legal challenges into the courts, sow confusion, declare a victory actually, and say that the election's been illegitimate." (Washington Examiner)

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...ats-take-power
    Yeah, of course he is. The man is a damn plague. It's very frustrating, as always.

    Speaking of that, here's an annoying quote from Trump in his change in transgender policy. I'm just going to spoiler the whole thing, cause like many of his answers to the press lately, it's lazy, infuriating, and lacks cohesion with any of his actions:
    Spoiler:

    Trump says transgender policy seeks to 'protect the country'


    Quote Originally Posted by Trump's quote
    “We have a lot of different concepts right now. They have a lot of different things happening with respect to transgender right now,” Trump said amid a protest outside the White House and outpouring of criticism on social media about the proposal.

    Asked about a campaign promise to protect the LGBT community, Trump said: “I’m protecting everybody. I want to protect our country.”

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    It's weird how the guy who claimed he might not accept the results of the 2016 election (along with the primaries that preceded them) is threatening to stamp his feet over the results of the 2018 midterms.....same midterms he and Republicans insist the Russians won't attempt to interfere in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiq View Post
    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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    I wish someone threw a brick at him. Right in his fat, ugly face.

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    The media loved praising Trump over his supposed pro-LGBT platform when every LGBT person or ally knew damn well that it was a grift. Of course media just dismissed them as Hillary shills and never bothered to profile them.

    https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status...13728692363264

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiolino View Post
    The media loved praising Trump over his supposed pro-LGBT platform when every LGBt person or ally knew damn well that it was a grift. Of course media just dismissed them as Hillary shills and never bothered to profile them.

    https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status...13728692363264
    Weren't enough shitty white people who thought blacks were lazy and ungrateful "you know what's" among their ranks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiq View Post
    I've often wondered about that myself; seems like being supported by people who only want you there so the world can end in fire (with you going to Hell in the process) would be somewhat off-putting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon Rin View Post
    Guys, today's news really has me stressed out and upset and fearful. I'm seriously not ok right now. I'm about to start crying.

    I didn't actually say what it was, so for anyone who didn't click my link in the last post, the Trump administration wants to rigidly define gender based on genitals at birth in an official Government capacity.

    This will effectively wipe out any federal protection for Trans people period.......
    This here is NOT OKAY.

    At all.

    Period.

    Even if one is cisgender, everyone does know what would be required to prove one's gender if challenged, if this is the case right? Genital inspections, or (probably costly) genetic testing.

    This is NOT OKAY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaba Kaba Fruit View Post
    both sides carry their pros and cons.
    Come back here and defend this you fucking coward

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    i tell ya i'm really feeling that eat the rich mood now
    eat the right, impale them on spikes and roast them in the square, make a festival out of it

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    Trump said: “I’m protecting everybody. I want to protect our country.”
    This really cuts to the core of why he's so horrifying; anybody that doesn't fit his narrow definition of what an American should be is not only not an American but is an active threat to the country.

    That means the LBGT community, that means minorities, that means women, and that anybody not of those categories that still votes for a Democrat.
    Complicating things since 2009.

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    Loved how Maggie Haberman called him savvy and a genius because of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruin View Post
    i tell ya i'm really feeling that eat the rich mood now
    eat the right, impale them on spikes and roast them in the square, make a festival out of it
    It's like one thing to be so openly corrupt and evil, but god-damn, they're so damn smug and arrogant about it. Espeically El Dumpo.

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