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    But I think the REAL issue is....

    Why does Jimmy Fallon have show and why is it still on the air? He's not funny at all.
    That is the truth right there.

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    John Stewart is so overrated.
    Conan is a golden god...but STEWART? really??
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    Well I never saw the movie, I used watch the Prevue guide channel a lot, when I was a kid and I saw the trailer for the movie all the time. lol.
    OH MY GOD! Same here!!!!

    The thing about Jimmy Fallon.

    There's a generation growing up now of middle schoolers who will attempt to stay late at night to watch TV.

    Because that's what middle schoolers do.

    Then kids that are 'cool' and 'stayed up late' will talk about the, "...awesome Jimmy Fallon Show!", not that there's anything awesome about it, but simply because it's a way to stand out. Then in a year or two they'll realize, "Oh! This guy was on Saturday Night Live!", and they'll search for clips of him. They'll talk about him as someone who was 'classic' when he was on SNL 'back in the day'. Then when they get to high school they'll start recalling some of the quotes/jokes from his show that they no longer watch and use them in class and everyone will have nostalgia. Because let's face it, when you're in middle school and high school, 3 years is a long time.

    Then when they get to college they'll tune into his show and watch his show every night and laugh with roommates and discuss his jokes and humor at great length even enjoying when his jokes completely fail.

    And thus, you will have the Jimmy Fallon generation that look at people like Conan as some asshole that has had his show way too long and should relinquish it to Jimmy.

    And it goes on like that until David Letterman induces Time Kompression.
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    OH MY GOD! Same here!!!!

    The thing about Jimmy Fallon.

    There's a generation growing up now of middle schoolers who will attempt to stay late at night to watch TV.

    Because that's what middle schoolers do.

    Then kids that are 'cool' and 'stayed up late' will talk about the, "...awesome Jimmy Fallon Show!", not that there's anything awesome about it, but simply because it's a way to stand out. Then in a year or two they'll realize, "Oh! This guy was on Saturday Night Live!", and they'll search for clips of him. They'll talk about him as someone who was 'classic' when he was on SNL 'back in the day'. Then when they get to high school they'll start recalling some of the quotes/jokes from his show that they no longer watch and use them in class and everyone will have nostalgia. Because let's face it, when you're in middle school and high school, 3 years is a long time.

    Then when they get to college they'll tune into his show and watch his show every night and laugh with roommates and discuss his jokes and humor at great length even enjoying when his jokes completely fail.

    And thus, you will have the Jimmy Fallon generation that look at people like Conan as some asshole that has had his show way too long and should relinquish it to Jimmy.

    And it goes on like that until David Letterman induces Time Kompression.
    True, but it's pretty bad when his monologue jokes doesn't get ANY laughter.

    When a punchline misses, it's pretty ugly.

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    True, but it's pretty bad when his monologue jokes doesn't get ANY laughter.

    When a punchline misses, it's pretty ugly.
    I can remember when Conan had that.

    However, and I've never actually seen Jimmy's show so I can't comment on what he does or doesn't do in that case, when Conan's jokes failed, he always made up for it with some self-depreciating quip that got a chuckle out of me and that made it all worthwhile.

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    I can remember when Conan had that.

    However, and I've never actually seen Jimmy's show so I can't comment on what he does or doesn't do in that case, when Conan's jokes failed, he always made up for it with some self-depreciating quip that got a chuckle out of me and that made it all worthwhile.
    Watch a few episodes. If anything is funny, it's the guest and audience, not Fallon.

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    This thread is kind of making me want to watch The Tonight Show. The only Conan I've heard is from Dr. Katz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ao Kiji View Post
    John Stewart is so overrated.
    Conan is a golden god...but STEWART? really??
    Stewart's humour cannot be appreciated by the lay.
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    Interesting:

    http://thesuperficial.com/2010/01/ja...on_nbc_too.php

    Sources close to former 'Tonight Show' host Jay Leno tell me he is furious with the way NBC has treated him and Conan O'Brien and is considering walking away from the entire mess with his head held high. "Now that Conan has made it clear he is leaving the troubled network, Jay is considering doing the same. They have put Jay in a terrible position. It looks like he is the reason that Conan is now without a job. Jay is a great guy and it's not fair that due to NBC's stupidity he looks like the bad guy," a TV insider tells me.
    "Plus, what happens when Jay does return to the 11:35 slot if his audience doesn't immediately follow? How can he possibly trust the same network that canceled Conan after only seven months?"

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    Wow.

    NBC done fucked up big time.
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    Yes, NBC totally fucked up. Big time.

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    It's not surprising given the scenario robby spelled out. I don't think Leno wants to be hated, especially when he's built a career on making people laugh.

    If Conan fans didn't have an inferiority complex as wide as the national debt, they'd realize they're being jerks because it's pretty obvious Leno is being demonized for NBC acting like any corporation would - trying to maximize its profit. Even if you criticize him not wanting to retire, it's clearly hard for him to do so when he's still got good things to say.
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    If Conan fans didn't have an inferiority complex as wide as the national debt, they'd realize they're being jerks because it's pretty obvious Leno is being demonized for NBC acting like any corporation would
    Leno could have said a week ago "I'm willing to move back to my old timeslot, if Conan is okay with it. Otherwise, no deal."

    Instead, he's been saying in interviews "Yeah, if NBC offered me the Tonight Show again, I'd take it back." rather than "No, I think Conan is doing a great job, and it will grow and do well under him." And then, he agreed to NBC's proposal before any sort of final negotiation took place (apparently) and it was announced three days ago that it was official he was moving back to the old slot.

    Due to the huge ammount of backlash and negative press, (and every single other late night comedian being against him) of course he's going to say *now* that he's not up for it. But he should have said it a week ago, or talked to Conan first. And he shouldn't have been badmouthing it beforehand for weeks. Turning it down *now* is pretty much the only thing he CAN do, its not what he would have done if he had any other choice, its not what he actually DID choose to do before the backlash.

    It'll be REALLY interesting what NBC pulls now that both of them have said they're walking. Particularly since its kind of... their entire night's lineup for the entire week.

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    Well only 7 minutes away and there will be a new Conan tonight. So lets enjoy as much we can before the switch. And lets see what Dave, Kimmel, and Craig have to say tonight about the Late Night war. Because everyone was on fired last night.

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    ...yeah, he's tearing them a new one already.

    I'm enjoying this.
    Last edited by Dark Lord Zenigame; January 13th, 2010 at 09:46 PM. Reason: ..and I'm not even a real Conan fan, I watch Letterman on the off day that I'm not watching Colbert.
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    This is my favorite qoute so far tonight.

    "I just want to say to all the kids at home, you can do anything you want in life... unless Jay Leno wants to do it too." Conan O'Brien

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    Dave just rip NBC a new one as well.

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    Graah, I wish I could watch both.
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    Dave should be up online tomarrow on CBS.com. I know after Conan, I'm switching to Craig to see what he does.

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    Dave got Jack Bauer in drag now!! LOL

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