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    I'm not expecting One Piece to be a breakout hit like DBZ or Naruto (which is becoming one).

    But, seriously, it should be able to do quite nicely and carry it's own over here.
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    Can there be a worst company then 4Kids? Yes! VERY much!

    Tokyopop is a worst dubbing company... All their Voice Actors sound dam boring. There is no emotions in their voices and they are horribly miss-matched. They are said to have ruined Rave Master, considered a master Piece in Japan.

    Besides... Tokyopop seems mainly only intereasted in Guy x Guy relationship based stuff (according to some report from them early this year in a newspaper I saw) and hopfully will never touch OP.


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    Yeah, Tokyopop does have a fair amount of yaoi and shoujo titles for manga, but I don't think I've seen any of their dubs. Are they really that terrible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel emfrbl View Post
    Can there be a worst company then 4Kids? Yes! VERY much!

    Tokyopop is a worst dubbing company... All their Voice Actors sound dam boring. There is no emotions in their voices and they are horribly miss-matched. They are said to have ruined Rave Master, considered a master Piece in Japan.
    While I am a fan of Rave, and know it lasted for quite a while I don't think it's considered a master piece. Course, if anyone knows of a site that says otherwise, I'd like to see it.

    Bar a few name changes and bad puns I don't feel the Rave dub was that bad. Most of the stuff they changed were perverted jokes which makes sense. I liked their VAs (if you want bad, track down the Blue Water dub of GT). They seemed to fit the characters in my opinion.

    Back on topic, Viz and Funi are the two main companies I'd like to see dub One Piece, maybe Viz with the Ocean voices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TakinawaTonfa View Post
    I'll stick with "Gum Gum", "Chop Chop", and any other reasonable single syllable name for the Devil Fruits. And for the record, "barabara" is a word in of itself which means "to be scattered about".

    On that note, if given the opporitunity, heres how I'd interpret some of the DF names:

    Gomu Gomu -- Keep the English translation
    Bara Bara -- Keep the English transaltion, or call it "Split Split"
    Moku Moku -- Keep the English
    Hiso Hiso -- (A re-dub would be certian to give us the inevitable filler episodes, therefore....) I say.... "Talk Talk" or "Chat Chat"....
    Kama Kama -- "Sythe Sythe"
    Kilo Kilo -- Probably "Pound Pound"
    Doru Doru -- Keep the English
    Hana Hana -- "Bloom Bloom"
    Goro Goro -- "Shock Shock"
    The Kilo Kilo fruit and Hana Hana fruit were the same in 4Kid's dub as the english version. I think "gomu Gomu" should be kept "gum gum". The Kama Kama fruit has to be kept simply because of Luffy's confusion of it with "Okama"(the japanese word for transvestite) Goro Goro should be kept "Rumble Rumble", becasue it's a close transltion that "Shock Shock". For the most part, the english translations of the fruits were bearable (Tweet Tweet made me want to vomit though...) I dunno, keep most of them, change the dumb/(American)punny ones.

    In other news, I'm gonna send massive amounts of letters to VIZ via (American) Shonen Jump in hopes that they will dub not only One Piece, but Buso Renkin and D. Gray-Man as well. Maybe sending them some petitioning via the form of fanart is in order?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel emfrbl View Post
    Can there be a worst company then 4Kids? Yes! VERY much!

    Tokyopop is a worst dubbing company... All their Voice Actors sound dam boring. There is no emotions in their voices and they are horribly miss-matched. They are said to have ruined Rave Master, considered a master Piece in Japan.
    They ruined rave master? Really? I liked their dub.
    The voice acting in Rave master was pretty good too.
    Only thing that seemed awkward was the new opening.

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    I'd like ADV Films to dub it.

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    If a new company wants to salvage whatever possibility there is for popularity of One Piece in America, then they should take these steps:

    1) Consistency. If all of the sudden, viewers are re-introduced to Luffy's "Rubber Rubber" Fruit or Roronoa Zoro, it's going to be weird as hell. I'd also prefer it if the original 4Kids actors were actually kept. Most companies actually just outsource their dubs to other studios, so it'd be rather easy to give the dub to TAJ Studios. I don't mean for them to keep everything the same as the 4Kids dub, because that would just be retarded.

    2) Don't start from the beginning. At least not on the TV broadcast. Going back to the DVDs is fine. I would like for them to air Little Garden, maybe as a "One Piece is back on CN!" marathon or something, and pimp them as "lost episodes," then go to where 4Kids left off from. But really, can you really expect average Joe to sit through 108 episodes before the main storyline resumes?

    3) Advertise it well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel emfrbl View Post
    Can there be a worst company then 4Kids? Yes! VERY much!

    Tokyopop is a worst dubbing company... All their Voice Actors sound dam boring. There is no emotions in their voices and they are horribly miss-matched. They are said to have ruined Rave Master, considered a master Piece in Japan.
    Tokyopop doesn't dub.

    And if you're thinking about RAVE/Rave Master, they only distributed that. RAVE was dubbed by Nelvana, who was also responsible for the legendary Cardcaptor Sakura dub.

    I haven't heard anything about Nelvana since RAVE though, so I think it's doubtful that they'll take over One Piece.

    The Kilo Kilo fruit and Hana Hana fruit were the same in 4Kid's dub as the english version.
    Yeah, I know. The funny thing is that 4kids still converted the 'kilo's to 'pounds' in the dub (IIRC). I think they should've just gone with 'pound' not only to match the attacks, but following the one-syllable pattern as well.

    'Hana-hana' really threw me for a loop, because only people who either:

    A) Have seen the originals or...
    B) Know the Japanese word for "flower" (hana)

    Will understand what that Devil fruit name means. Its just too strange to leave the name alone like that.

    For the most part, the english translations of the fruits were bearable (Tweet Tweet made me want to vomit though...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yashouzoid View Post
    If a new company wants to salvage whatever possibility there is for popularity of One Piece in America, then they should take these steps:

    1) Consistency. If all of the sudden, viewers are re-introduced to Luffy's "Rubber Rubber" Fruit or Roronoa Zoro, it's going to be weird as hell. I'd also prefer it if the original 4Kids actors were actually kept. Most companies actually just outsource their dubs to other studios, so it'd be rather easy to give the dub to TAJ Studios. I don't mean for them to keep everything the same as the 4Kids dub, because that would just be retarded.

    2) Don't start from the beginning. At least not on the TV broadcast. Going back to the DVDs is fine. I would like for them to air Little Garden, maybe as a "One Piece is back on CN!" marathon or something, and pimp them as "lost episodes," then go to where 4Kids left off from. But really, can you really expect average Joe to sit through 108 episodes before the main storyline resumes?

    3) Advertise it well.
    Yes, but there are a lot of long animes - One Piece is amongst the longest, yes, but there are some very long titles that have had a lot if not most of their episodes aired. Besides, if people like it, they'll watch it. Lots of shows outside of otaku fandom have episodes that number in the hundreds - the Simpsons, Friends, probably lots more.

    However, I disagree about keeping voice actors and not starting at the beginning. For starters, they might not be able to keep the same voice actors (I'm pretty sure it was stated in this thread of the 4Kids sticky). That in and of itself would force the new company to get all new VAs.

    Second, One Piece's English dub as it stands now is considered pretty bad not only by people on this forum but probably by people who didn't see it as well. However, this could be used as an advertising advantage. I didn't originate the idea, but it could be seen as an angle a company could take. Citing specific examples might be a great idea, especially if 4Kids looses the rights to their edits and the person who picks up the show is able to use those edits to their advantage as examples of why it was so bad.

    "Hammer gun? I didn't think so."

    "Do you really think you'd be afraid of a cork gun?"

    "Since when do people drink juice at a fancy restaurant?"

    Ect, ect. That would educate people that show was HEAVILY edited and might lead to some people giving One Piece the benefit of the doubt if they'd seen the 4Kids dub. This could lead to enough curiosity to get people to start watching the show again, possibly convincing others to try it.

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    I actually don't want the dub to restart the series. I'm really sick of Arabasta and thought it was slow-moving and boring, save for like 2 parts which were wicked cool.

    We're so close to Jaya and Skypiea, and I'm more excited to see how Skypiea will change.

    Arabasta sucked so much, the impact of the dub was barely noticable.

    I'd only watch dubbed Arabasta if they edited out Vivi tripping and crying, but than again, that would make the entire arc like 5 episodes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Zulen View Post
    I actually don't want the dub to restart the series. I'm really sick of Arabasta and thought it was slow-moving and boring, save for like 2 parts which were wicked cool.

    We're so close to Jaya and Skypiea, and I'm more excited to see how Skypiea will change.

    Arabasta sucked so much, the impact of the dub was barely noticable.

    I'd only watch dubbed Arabasta if they edited out Vivi tripping and crying, but than again, that would make the entire arc like 5 episodes.
    I... think you'd probably be one of very few people who think that way about Alabasta. oO; Could be wrong, though, since I haven't been around this forum for very long.

    I think restarting might be a good idea, but I don't know about bashing the edits that 4Kids made. That seems more like something a third grader would do. >>;
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    I agree that were there to be a new One Piece dub, it should pick up where the 4Kids one left off. It would take at least two years to catch up where 4Kids ended off at. A lot of casual fans would just see it as reruns and be turned off. Later on, if the new dub were to really catch on, then they could go back and re-dub the old episodes, milking the series for all it's worth. They could show skipped arcs as "lost episodes" or something, and obviously a DVD-only redub of the old episodes would be perfect (though that would come along later down the line).

    I do think that there should be a total voice actor recast, though. Voice actors are changed all the time in long-running series, with series like Pokemon and Dragonball Z surviving a complete voice actor overhaul just fine.

    Also, Marines should be kept as the Navy. I think that might be a confusing one if it were to suddenly change. As for other changes, the Sanji-lollipop situation might be a tricky one. I guess just editing around the cigarette completely instead might work easier than trying to reintroduce the cigarette. Or just have Sanji suddenly smoke a cigarette and hope no viewers care ^^

    The reintroduction of blood into the series would be pretty easy. I mean, the Naruto dub itself seems to slowly be allowing more and more blood to be shown without being edited, and One Piece could go about it the same way.

    Last but not least, I just hope that if there is a new One Piece dub, Studiopolis doesn't supply the voice actors. I must say, I'm pretty sick of hearing those same voice actors in so many shonen series.

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    I think showing Skypiea first would be great. Skypiea did nothing to the story, so anyone who has never watched One Piece could either be really intrigued, or not care at all, and get turned off by the funny looking angels and girls with big upper lips. Personally, the Jaya arc hooked me on One Piece, Bellamy getting one shotted was flipping amazing. And followed by Blackbeard one shotting Sarquiss, Jaya full of greatness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generic_Soda View Post
    In other news, I'm gonna send massive amounts of letters to VIZ via (American) Shonen Jump in hopes that they will dub not only One Piece, but Buso Renkin and D. Gray-Man as well. Maybe sending them some petitioning via the form of fanart is in order?
    I was really hoping somebody else would notice this part and think it's as good an idea as I do...


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    I think it should be like "Rubber Pistol" Or "Rubber Storm" for the American Dub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusashi View Post
    Bellamy getting one shotted was flipping amazing. And followed by Blackbeard one shotting Sarquiss, Jaya full of greatness.
    What?! NO!! Poor boys... I loved them to bits, and then all THAT nonsense had to happen. Long live the Hyena and his pimp-ass first mate!

    Anyway... If "Gomu Gomu no" really would be too confusing to viewers, I think I'd also prefer "Rubber" blah blah blah... To me, it's not about what sounds closest to the original, or about one-syllable attacks, it's about what sounds the least awkward and most like what that particular character would say.

    "Gum Gum", to me, sounds waaay too childish for Luffy to be saying it. He's young, but his maturity at times astounds me. Whenever he goes up to some bad guy and says "I'm the man who'll surpass you!", I can't help but sit back and think, "Wow!".

    I also don't think a dub should be geared for 'all ages' as some of you guys would like. Certain shows should be geared for certain ages, and I think much of the fighting and many of the themes in One Piece were made more for the teen/young adult group in society.

    Quick example would be my thoughts on the pilot of Afro Samurai. It was DAMN gory, and there was some language involved, obviously gearing it towards the late teens/twenties range. A show doesn't need to appeal to everyone in order to be good. Younger kids can watch it if they want, but other things (Spongebob or something) would probably be more suited for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roamingwyoming View Post
    What?! NO!! Poor boys... I loved them to bits, and then all THAT nonsense had to happen. Long live the Hyena and his pimp-ass first mate!

    Anyway... If "Gomu Gomu no" really would be too confusing to viewers, I think I'd also prefer "Rubber" blah blah blah... To me, it's not about what sounds closest to the original, or about one-syllable attacks, it's about what sounds the least awkward and most like what that particular character would say.

    "Gum Gum", to me, sounds waaay too childish for Luffy to be saying it. He's young, but his maturity at times astounds me. Whenever he goes up to some bad guy and says "I'm the man who'll surpass you!", I can't help but sit back and think, "Wow!".

    I also don't think a dub should be geared for 'all ages' as some of you guys would like. Certain shows should be geared for certain ages, and I think much of the fighting and many of the themes in One Piece were made more for the teen/young adult group in society.

    Quick example would be my thoughts on the pilot of Afro Samurai. It was DAMN gory, and there was some language involved, obviously gearing it towards the late teens/twenties range. A show doesn't need to appeal to everyone in order to be good. Younger kids can watch it if they want, but other things (Spongebob or something) would probably be more suited for them.

    Problem with your comparison is that Afro Samurai is nothing but mature content.

    One Piece is unique in that it can appeal to all ages, yeah it has alot of mature moments but it's got just as many childish ones.

    If anything, the dub should be geared to all audiences by just keeping it as is. 4Kids tried to make it into a kids-only show and it didn't work.

    If someone tried to make it for older audiences, and threw it someplace like Adult swim.......well we all know how Detective Conan ended up when they did that.

    It needs to just be kept as it is, a show that (when unchanged) appeals to a wide audience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polygon View Post
    I think it should be like "Rubber Pistol" Or "Rubber Storm" for the American Dub.
    like in the Odex dub ;)
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    I'd just like to say that I agree that the dub should not start over, it should pick up where 4Kids left off.
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    I do think that there should be a total voice actor recast, though.
    I agree to a point, but even if they change everyone else I think Lisa Ortiz needs to be kept as Chopper. She's absolutely perfect. They would only make Chopper's voice suck if they got anyone but her to do it.
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